izotope ozone 3 software

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ive upgraded my studio ALOT in the last couple weeks. new headphones [direct sound/ athm20], another sutdio projects vtb-1 tub pre, sonar 5 pro, 2 at2020 condesnors, and an at2021, upgraded cables, and now i need osmehting to make my mix for real.

i want to go with vst's and mastering vsts and i found the ozone software. ive heard a lot of good things, and sam ash suggested it to me esspecially for the price.

whats eveyrone else think of it?


what i basically want is to have a decent mix. i want it to have mroe oclor to it. i like how it sounds now, but i want more to it.

thanks














ps- mics<snake<tube pre/built in pres<16 line mixer<delta1010lt<sonar 5 pro

and i have a rack unit with compressor/effects unit, bbe sound enhancer/art EQ and it's hooked up to whatever is best for it
 
buryher17 said:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/iZotope-64bit-Studio-Processing-Bundle?sku=706301

ive upgraded my studio ALOT in the last couple weeks. new headphones [direct sound/ athm20], another sutdio projects vtb-1 tub pre, sonar 5 pro, 2 at2020 condesnors, and an at2021, upgraded cables, and now i need osmehting to make my mix for real.

i want to go with vst's and mastering vsts and i found the ozone software. ive heard a lot of good things, and sam ash suggested it to me esspecially for the price.

whats eveyrone else think of it?


what i basically want is to have a decent mix. i want it to have mroe oclor to it. i like how it sounds now, but i want more to it.

thanks














ps- mics<snake<tube pre/built in pres<16 line mixer<delta1010lt<sonar 5 pro

and i have a rack unit with compressor/effects unit, bbe sound enhancer/art EQ and it's hooked up to whatever is best for it

I have ozone 3. It's a decent program for the price, and gives you all in 1 type of plug-in. These days i have got on and rode the Waves
 
Good for the price

Ozone 3 can be very helpful for a lot of things. I think the best benefit for me was learning so much about how each device works - including dithering. They have good info in general and you can check out the manuals w/o buying the program (check their web site). I learned a ton just reading the manuals.

The technology here is pretty vast, and it's not a "no brainer instant fix". Like any tool, if you misuse it, or don't really know what you're doing, you can definitely makes things worse instead of better.

Still it's great to have a program with lots of great presets as starting points. It's not just a mastering program for final mixed either. It's pretty useful for individual tracks too.

It IS very CPU hungry though, so keep that in mind. Overall a very good "bang for the buck".
 
I definately agree with the above comment. It is an extremely useful tool. And I learned more reading the manual for it than I had in a long time. In fact, I think i'll give it another read.

I've found the eq section very helpful for identifying problems and getting to know my mics and frequencies much better. I'm fairly new with those things, and I can tend to bumble through mixing, but seeing the frequencies right in front of me really gives me a visual to learn with.

There are so many useful tools in there that it's hard to know where to start. You can download the demo from www.izotope.com and try it out.

But it is a cpu hog, as stated before. I find better results using the vst than the direct-x version. I only have the vst installed in my DAW
 
The dithering is pretty nice - But I usually call it "Blow-Zone" otherwise. :cool:
 
I'd say go UAD if you can. No CPU load, great mastering plugs. Great mixing plugs, loads of color. Smokes Ozone, and Waves on almost everything.........
 
aweosme, thank you everyone. i have a friend who works at guitarcenter so im going to have him pick up one of the izotope ozone/trash/spectrum packs for me on discount :]

im definately going to read that manuel online though.
 
Ozone has great graphics.

But lower sound quality than the best freeware plugs.

Save your money.
 
I use Ozone 3 and I'm pretty pleased. I'll have to look and see if my UAD has any mastering plugins. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Timothy Lawler said:
Ozone has great graphics.

But lower sound quality than the best freeware plugs.

Save your money.


don't know about ozone 3... i tried out the first version a long, long time ago-
what I liked about it was the multi-band-compressor (in combination with the visual eq thingie) and the multi-band harmonic exciter.

any nice free plugins there? you teased us, now go and name some!! :D
 
six said:
any nice free plugins there? you teased us, now go and name some!! :D
MB comp: slim slow slider C3
EQ: Paris
Verb: SIR
Limiter: George Yohng W1 for transparent, Digitalfishpones Blockfish for thickening
I don't use exciters and wideners so can't comment there.

None of the Ozone stuff comes close to the above in sound quality, IMHO. And for WAY under the cost of Ozone you can get non-freeware plugs that are stellar.

For Reaper users, ReaFir is an excellent sounding and flexible MB comp, and a transparent EQ when in EQ mode. They're both equivalent in quality to the Waves stuff, which I also have.
 
I used Ozone in the past and thought it was OK. I then got the UAD plugs and think they sound a TON better and more natural. I still use Ozone when I need a brickwall limiter. I like the UAD for comp and EQ better.
 
I can't speak for Ozone 3, but I tried the original Ozone. For what you get for the money I didn't like it immensly. It's a handy little all in one tool I suppose, but I found that a lot of the stuff on it you can get better versions of as freeware. It also leads to the temptation to use some of the features even though you may not need them or know how they work.

In fact the only thing I really found a use for in the end was the 'volume maximizer', and that was only until I found one of the plethora of (free!) limiters that I prefer out there. It also seems to be rather too system hungry for my liking. I'd say check out if you can get a bunch of freeware that does the same stuff.

My equivalent would be

Limiter: Kjaerhaus Classic, George Yohng W1, Blockfish
Reverb: SIR, Freeverb too, Glaceverb
EQ: Paris

I don't use MBCs, exciters, or wideners, so I can't speak for them.
 
Everything in Ozone 3 can suck...if you overdo it!
With proper use, it's really a decent mastering plug.
 
Jamz0r said:
...mastering plug.
How can something be a "mastering plug" and not even include any tools actually needed for mastering? Like a PQ editor, a CDINFO editor, a track arranger, an inter-track volume balancer, a burn error reporter, etc?

That sums it up right there. That's why there are those who love it and those who hate it. Those who can't mix, and erroneously believe that "mastering" is the process of doing what should have been done in mixing, love it. Those who can actually mix, and understand that mastering actually means prepping recordings for publication, hate it.

Nice dithering. But other than the dithering, it is a lousy piece of software on almost every scale. It sounds cold and digital, it sucks up CPU cycles like Oprah on a baked ham, and the whole idea of a "mastering plug" that is designed not to master but to fix a bad mix is bogus.

G.
 
Glen, it's not like I dubbed the name for it.

You guys with your analog hardware setups get awfully touchy when anyone brings up these types of questions....really makes me wonder why.
And again, if you have a good mix...even a great mix...you CAN add a more polished sparkle using Ozone 3. If Ozone 3 makes it sound worse, then I'm sure you overprocessed. :rolleyes:

Oh, and about the PQ etc...one would use other software for that. Do you use one of your outboard compressors to do the PQ on your client's CD project?
Exactly. :rolleyes:
 
I always found Ozone to add a subtle haze to the sound. Or worse. And my use was far milder than most, I'd suspect.

To those who've said they like it, what other processors have you compared it to?
 
Jamz0r said:
You guys with your analog hardware setups get awfully touchy when anyone brings up these types of questions....really makes me wonder why.
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Oh, and about the PQ etc...one would use other software for that. Do you use one of your outboard compressors to do the PQ on your client's CD project?
Way off base in your analysis. First off where do you get off thinking I'm one of those guys with analog hardware setups? Sure, I have some external iron, but not much, and all my editing, mixing and mastering is done in Adobe Audiotion, Steinberg Nuendo, Sonic Foundry Sound Forge. What's so analog or high-and-mighty about that?

And no, I wouldn't use my Pro VLA for PQ editing. That's not even relevant. What's relevant is the term "mastering plug". I know you didn't coin that term; it's not your fault. The problem is that such items as Ozone, or in hardware, the TC Finalizer (which I think may have pretty much started it all) promote bad engineering and therefore bad end products....or at least ones that will fall short of what they would have sounded like if they were produced back before these companies started marketing the idea that mastering is about making a mix sound good. It's only in the past 5-10 years or so since these products came out that anybody even considered using the mastering stage to mix.

My VLA is a compressor. But I don't have the audacity (nor does ART, FTM) to call it "mastering hardware". It's a compressor; nothing more, nothing less. Whether I use it for tracking, mixing, polishing the 2mix, or compressing the playback of overly-dynamic rented DVDs so that I don't have to keep my finger on the volume remote for every time the scene switched from too-soft conversation to too-loud car chases, is irrelevant. It's a compressor.

What are my mastering tools? Sony's CD Architect and DVD Architect, Plextor's Plextools, and Nero's CD/DVD Speed. There's not a compressor, limiter or EQ in the whole lot. Why? Because sonically shaping the mix is only a tiny part of mastering. That's not waht mastering is supposed to be about. The "fix the mix in the shrinkwrap" mentality has to be opposed. At least, if one gives a shit about the quality of the productions they listen to.

And companies like Izotope and TC that take advantage of rookies by trying to tell them that mastering is about sonically fixing the mix - and that they just so happen to have invented just the tool for that - should be shot in the abdomen with a 9mm hollow point.

G.
 
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