Is there a device to pan eq bands in the mix?

[junplugged]

Like take a slice of low mid and push it over a few degrees to the left and then take some high mids and pan right? Is this done? Like on a vocal to make it sound wider in stereo but still mainly centered in the mix?

 

[chessrock]

That would be interesting.

 

[junplugged]

I was just looking at the panel of the Rane PEQ 55 Parametric Eq and I guess mono signal could be split to the 2 channels and sent to each side after the eq. But I don't know if this is done or if it sounds wack. I don't have one of those but I guess I could use my old SE-50, but that thing is full of noise....

 

[Be Loveless]

I've never even thought of that. Let us know how that works out. Could you just dub radically eqed parts and pan those?

 

[TexRoadkill]

That's an old faux stereo technique. It's cool in stereo but you lose the effect in mono.

 

[Cloneboy Studio]

I've wanted to do the same thing before.

Best bet would be to cut and paste a bunch of digital copies, then chop up the sound using HP/BP/LP filters and make them into seperate tracks to pan any which way you want.

Might take a few hours but that's how i'd do it if I really had to do it.

 

[minofifa]

yeah that would be a cool idea.
Well what if you tried this:
Make a copy of the vocal track and pan one some to the right and the other some to the left. Then put the EQ effect on both and turn the highs up on one while turning the highs down on the other. Then turn the lows up on the one with turned down highs, and do the opposite to the other.
woud that work?

 

[mbuster]

That's kinda what I've done a couple of times on a bass guitar. That way I keep the low frequency energy in the center, while moving the upper-mids and highs a bit off center to make the bass stand out a little better. This is handy in a dense mix for making the bass have its own place while retaining all its "oomph". I've never done this in an extreme fashion, just a few degrees over to push it out of the way. It's weird how, when done right, this makes the bass seem a couple db louder when it's really not, and it still seems like it's centered. It's just about finding that one little niche in the mix where it'll fit and not be masked as much.

 

[kylen]

I've seen this mentioned on other mastering web sites a Texroadkill mentioned it's an old trick to set up a 'faux stereo' comb.

There's a PSP plug which combines comb and delay to give you something wider sounding (and potentially more dangerous - see the widening thread)...

I like the idea of panning the upper mids of the bass guitar a bit - I might try that mbuster thanx !

 

[junplugged]

Nice, it wasn't an insane idea after all. Well, with all the ideas about mixing I now realize how incredibly limited my MR8 is. It was fun while it lasted but I need to get some more stuff... I can't do even this w/ it. I'll have to go to PC after all.

I was wondering about the eq panning thing since I will have very few tracks, maybe 2, keeping things simple and would like to widen it. I'll go search for widening.

I wonder if stereo mic'ing would compare to just re-mixing mono....

 

[DaveDrummer]

the bass usually sounds weird funky because the subwoofer is in mono, plus the normal ear cant tell where the bass is coming from

 

[Be Loveless]

HEY MAN, some of those Normals have pretty good ears. Why ya gotta be all down on the Normals and shit huh? Why you laugh? Why you laugh!!

 

[helyfede]

yes it can be done with the TCeqsat powercore.
It is a very good mastering equalizer that can brake the LR correction of equalization and you can set the eq as you want from right to left.
I use that type of correction sometimes on vocal tracks.
http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/EQsat_big.jpg