Instrumental Composition

Trichter

Member
Hi,
as a result of (by now more than one year) of home-office I started playing on the guitar again.
Here is an instrumental track I've composed in the G phrygian mode.
I'd be happy to receive some feedback.

https://soundcloud.com/tricht0rk%2Fphrygian-gallop
Bass and drums come out of a Digitech band creator.
Guitar is an Ibanez RGA32 mol, connected to a Line6 Pod Go.
Recording and mixing was done on a Tascam DP24-SD.

EDIT 03.09.2021:
Another small composition. This time in E minor and with more tapping and sweep picking. 8-)
Also, I used a different tool called "matchering" for mastering.
https://soundcloud.com/tricht0rk%2Fneoclassic
Best regards
Trichter
 
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Bulls Hit

Well-known member
Yeah it's a gallop alright. Nice chops. I like your guitar tones but the low end is cloudy and indistinct. The drums aren't doing you any favours
 

Trichter

Member
Thanks for the reply. (y)
With cloudy and indistinct you mean the low end of the guitars or the whole mix?
I already reduced everything below 100 Hz for the guitars, but might go a bit further.
If it is due to drums/bass, I do not really know what to do. The tracks are generated by the band creator automatically and despite some basic EQing or maybe a compressor there is not much I could change. Suggestions are welcome!
 

rob aylestone

Well-known member
I thought it sounded pretty good guitar wise - it's pretty busy but the drums sat OK with me. I was interested in it being G Phrygian mode? Did I miss the Ab? It sounds like Gm to me - and the A seems to fit better than Ab?
 

Trichter

Member
Well, the first riff neither contains A nor Ab. The first prominent appearance of the Ab comes later (after about 34 seconds).
The lead parts are essentially arpeggios of the diatonic chords of G phrygian and some runs through the scale.
It kind of started as an exercise when I worked on that galloping rhythm and in parallel read a book about jazz improvisation (and all that harmony music theory).
 

rob aylestone

Well-known member
So not really Phrygian really. That mode always sticks in my head because it feels kind of mystic and haunting with the semi-tone up on the second note of the scale. It doesn't matter a jot really - but it wasn't what I expected. Interesting though.
 

Papanate

Active member
Some Comments - the lead guitar is too loud - The Bass is almost non existent - The drums are mixed under - the Rhythm guitar gets progressively out of time as the song progresses. Cool idea for a song -
 

LazerBeakShiek

AKA Optimus Prime LEGO Vampire
(and all that harmony music theory).
Yeah, have you figured out how to play it 'happy' or 'sad' ?

Play happy solos with happy chords
Play sad solos with sad chords
play happy solos with sad chords
play sad solos with happy chords
etc.. the possibilities are endless..

I play happy or sad.
 
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Trichter

Member
Some Comments - the lead guitar is too loud - The Bass is almost non existent - The drums are mixed under - the Rhythm guitar gets progressively out of time as the song progresses. Cool idea for a song -
Thanks for the suggestions. I think the bass is a bit going down as you can only hear it at the very low end of the frequency spectrum. Not sure how to bring it out a bit more. Have to check if I find some frequency range that makes it stick out next to the distorted guitars. Also (as a guitar player) I indeed tend to make the guitar a bit louder than necessary. :LOL:
I am working on another piece where I try to keep your suggestions in mind.
 

Papanate

Active member
Thanks for the suggestions. I think the bass is a bit going down as you can only hear it at the very low end of the frequency spectrum. Not sure how to bring it out a bit more. Have to check if I find some frequency range that makes it stick out next to the distorted guitars. Also (as a guitar player) I indeed tend to make the guitar a bit louder than necessary. :LOL:
I am working on another piece where I try to keep your suggestions in mind.

Want to send the Tracks my way?
 

Eric V

Active member
I agree with many of the above comments, but would like to add that I enjoyed it. Really good start if you keep working it, it will get much better. Well done !
 

Opticsound

New member
Hi,
as a result of (by now more than one year) of home-office I started playing on the guitar again.
Here is an instrumental track I've composed in the G phrygian mode.
I'd be happy to receive some feedback.

https://soundcloud.com/tricht0rk%2Fphrygian-gallop
Bass and drums come out of a Digitech band creator.
Guitar is an Ibanez RGA32 mol, connected to a Line6 Pod Go.
Recording and mixing was done on a Tascam DP24-SD.

Best regards
Trichter
Man if you had someone to kick a live beat, you certainly could riff it up!
 

Trichter

Member
I guess a real drum and bass track would indeed be much better, but due to time limitations (working full time and this is just a hobby) and Covid restrictions this will most likely never happen.
Want to send the Tracks my way?
Yeah, why not, here you go:
It's 5 tracks (drum, bass, 2x rhythm and lead guitar). Count in starts after about 10 seconds.
Whoever wants to give it a try with mixing/mastering, feel free to play around with the uploaded tracks and please show me your results!
 

Papanate

Active member
I guess a real drum and bass track would indeed be much better, but due to time limitations (working full time and this is just a hobby) and Covid restrictions this will most likely never happen.

Yeah, why not, here you go:
It's 5 tracks (drum, bass, 2x rhythm and lead guitar). Count in starts after about 10 seconds.
Whoever wants to give it a try with mixing/mastering, feel free to play around with the uploaded tracks and please show me your results!
What do you think about this?
 

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Trichter

Member
Thanks for your efforts. The bass is much more prominent in your mix. Can you comment on your working procedure and the hard- and software you used?
For me, the lead guitar is now a bit too quiet. Especially when listening to it on bad speakers (my smartphone) the sound is dominated by the rhythm guitar.
 

Papanate

Active member
Thanks for your efforts. The bass is much more prominent in your mix. Can you comment on your working procedure and the hard- and software you used?
For me, the lead guitar is now a bit too quiet. Especially when listening to it on bad speakers (my smartphone) the sound is dominated by the rhythm guitar.
Here is a Cell Phone Mix. I boosted the bass 5 db - then put a compressor (LA2A BlackFace) on it. I EQ'd the drums bringing out some Resonate Harmonics. I ran the Rhythm guitars through Helix using a modern Plexi setting - a different amp for each - to bring out the crunch and give them an identity. I used Flextime (Logic timing Program) and the Rhythm, Bass and Lead Guitar. I EQ'd the lead guitar to smooth it out. I put an Adaptive Limiter on the Stereo Bus - and cut it to -1 db. Then I just ran the thing through Ozone 9 adjusting the EQ and bring a max level up. Took me about 5 or ten minutes.
 

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Trichter

Member
That is some quite professional workflow and equipment that you have there.
I like this second mix much more. (y)
 

LazerBeakShiek

AKA Optimus Prime LEGO Vampire
What I like, is the way the scales are for the most part descending all the time. When the melody of the riff does turn upwards, it never climbs quite as high as it fell. Like it is chasing that first high through out the song.
 
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