Installing Monitors

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Hello everyone. Noob Question:

I've been trying to figure out how to hook up monitors to the computer, but I'm not really familiar with how to install them :D

On the back panel, there's an unbalanced RCA input, and balanced XLR and TRS inputs. I was thinking of buying two TRS cables, and then get two mini stereo adaptors that could plug into the back of the tower.

The ports I have available are: 5 - Audio (rear): center/sub, rear (stereo), side (stereo), line-in (stereo), front/headphones (stereo), microphone

So I was wondering if plugging the TRS cables into the back of the tower through these ports was possible? If it isn't, I have an SP-555 that may support them.

Really, I haven't the slightest idea. Help?
 
A decent interface will have 1/4" TRS outs which is what would normally go to monitors with TRS to TRS cables. Or TRS to XLR. Sometimes sourcing from XLR jacks depending on the interface, but not that common IMO. At least on the low end stuff. One option might be a 1/8" to RCA cable of significant length, and you split it down the RCA end to have enough reach to each individual monitor. With an RCA to TS adapter if need be. But hardly an ideal solution. Any cell phone, radio tower, wireless network, truck driver with a CB, and other things will cause interference that'll broadcast over your monitors that way. You really need the balanced wiring of TRS to get the full benefit. Which will likely require hardware that your computer didn't come with.

The SP-555
Roland U.S. - SP-555: Creative Sampler with Performance Effects
does NOT appear to have the correct OUTPUT connectors for it. But it does have RCA outs which would be mildly better than splitting a 1/8" jack to RCA. Not that that would be any less problematic.

All of my interfaces have the needed outputs.
M-Audio Mobile Pre - 2x TRS outputs
M-Audio Delta 44 - 4x TRS outputs
Korg MR-1000 - 2x XLR outputs (and 2x RCA, but not intended for monitors)

Lots of options out there, you don't have to look far or pay much. It's just not something that ships with most computers.
 
Go to radio shack and get a 1/8" stereo to dual RCA adapter, plug it into the front/headphones (Stereo) jack on your computer and then run RCA cables from there to you monitors. It'll sound fine.

J

We're talking about powered monitors, right? As in, amplifiers are built in, yes?
 
@Shadow - yeah, I feared as much; was more concerned with just getting the monitors rather than making sure I had what was necessary. Pretty stupid in hindsight, but computer speakers aren't really a good alternative for quality recording. I checked out two of the interfaces you recommended, and they're right around my price range. I'll make sure to do a little bit more digging before making any transactions.

@J - Bi-amplified, yes. Seems like a much more convenient option; I'm just concerned what kind of effect it'd have on the sound.
 
It's no different than the way your CD player is connected to your tuner, or the way any other standard audio components are connected together. You need balanced signals for low level sources that are going to see a lot of gain, like all microphones, or high impedance sources, like a great many microphones, or when you are going to be covering very long distances with any kind of signal, like in a PA snake, or when the signal source is powered by a different AC circuit with potentially a different ground reference, again like in a PA snake (decent gear won't be sensitive to this, but a lot of stuff most of use can be). Your computer's output is a low impedance line level source (in other words, a robust source), and you're only going a few feet, and presumably your monitors are plugged into the wall in the same vicinity as your computer. In this application, decent shielded RCA cables are absolutely all you need. (They're pretty much all going to be shielded, so when I say decent, I mean anything other than the freebies that come in the box when you buy any kind of audio gear, although to be honest, I have even a few of those in my setup with no issues). The only thing you need to watch out for is to make sure you don't run any of your audio cables right alongside a power cord or the cord going up to your monitor. They don't need to be very far apart, just not laying right next to each other. Audio cables running right next to each other is fine whether balanced or unbalanced.

Radio shack . . . 1/8" stereo to dual RCA and two RCA cables . . . good to go! It's not a shortcut or a settling for less. It's the very reason your monitors even HAVE RCA inputs. The other name for RCA cables, BTW, is "Audio" cables. There's a reason for that! :D Yes, TRS would be less sensitive to noise, but zero times zero is zero. You will absolutely not have noise problems with RCA cables in this application. If you pick up noise from cell towers on a six foot RCA cable running a line level signal, or even a 20 foot RCA cable, worry about your health, not your sound, cause you're living in a microwave oven!

Now get 'er done so you can get on to more important things!

J

PS - Your cell PHONE definitely WILL make noises in your monitors. If it's close enough the monitor, it will do that even when the monitors aren't plugged in!!! I really don't know whether this noise gets into the input side of things or whether it's just the cell phone signal interacting directly with the speaker coil, but as a general rule, I don't think you want cell phones near any of your equipment while you are recording.

PPS - Don't misunderstand my comments as being in any way anti-TRS or anti-balanced signals. That would be retarded. Balanced signals are less sensitive to noise. That's an absolute fact. If your question were: "I have TRS outputs and TRS inputs and I have RCA outputs and RCA inputs, which should I use?" Obviously you'd use the TRS. And in some applications if you said, "I only have RCA", I'd say, "Well, then your going to have a problem." In some cases, I'd say get an RCA to TRS cable (which would turn a single ended output signal into a balanced signal as long as the destination device actually handles it that way. In this situation, though, RCA on both ends is going to be 100% good.
 
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@Shadow - yeah, I feared as much; was more concerned with just getting the monitors rather than making sure I had what was necessary. Pretty stupid in hindsight, but computer speakers aren't really a good alternative for quality recording. I checked out two of the interfaces you recommended, and they're right around my price range. I'll make sure to do a little bit more digging before making any transactions.

I wasn't really recommending them, just listing them as possible options. And no, it's not stupid. Not if you intend to get serious about recording. Stupid was my first after market sound card. M-Audio Delta 44. TRS ins and outs ONLY. So I pretty much had to buy a microphone preamp and headphone preamp, just to use it like any other interface. Even though I got it used at $100-ish(MSRP $300-ish). I ended up spending $200 on cables and adapters to use it, then another $200 in used preamps to really use it. Quite the bargain huh? Lessons learned. Don't get me wrong, that's a pretty decent soundcard. My CDs never sounded so good. But I wasn't exactly planning on taking the full plunge as the first step into serious recording.
 
Just to point out: I ran 'high end' rca cables out of Tascam 1641 into KRK G2-5's and had horrible noise issue I am assuming due to internal power supply. May be one reason the 1800 has wall wart. TRS solved the problem.
 
Alright, thanks for the information guys; I've got plenty of things to consider before going through with my final purchase.

Seriously, the help is greatly appreciated. :D
 
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