Inserts and sends - again

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Hi guys,

I'm just confused again - to the point to where I have to bother you all :mad:

Goal is minimum CPU usage and efficiency of effects use - apply effects to multiple backup tracks.

I got 2 group of backup vocals with 5 parts each (doing a Queen cover, so no surprise there). So, just looking at one group of 5 as an example, I've created a group track and sent all 5 of them to the group.

Fine, 5 tracks are now balanced in level and all on one fader now.

I then want to run this combined output through a Compressor and through some plugin effects - a Vocal Preamp sim Using Line6 stuff.

The issue, I want to run this signal through an effects chain and get an output from the end of it. This is opposed to sending the signal in parallel to an effects chain and ending up with 2 signals; one raw and one effeted by the effects chain.

If I create an Effects Channel (Project -> Add Track -> Effects channel) and set up a chain of whatever effects, I cannot select this effects set from the "Inserts" menu to run the Signal *through* the effects chain.

I *can* select this effects set under the "sends", but then I'd have 2 signals to deal with as an output, the raw original and one out of the effect chain that I set up.

What am I missing here?

Then, going further, would I have to repeat all of this for the 2nd group of 5 backups, having 2 streams of effects, where really they could all be sharing the one?

Hmmm, I hope I've explained myself clearly! Any help appreciated.

Cheers,
FM
 
If I understand you correctly, what you want to do is (Project>Add Track>Group Channel) for the 5 tracks. From there you can insert any effect you want, as well as send to a stereo FX channel. The group outs can be routed to another group or whatever bus you want to further complicate things if you like. lol. Just kidding. Tho you actually can. :D
 
Hey there. I'll try by asking you another question.

If you wanted to apply 100% of the same flanger effect on 5 tracks, and have zero "non_flanger" signal from any of the 5, how would you do this?

Cheers,
FM
 
Send all channels to be effected to a group. From the group channel, send to the effect (pre fader selected). <this would be the key<. Pull fader down for the group channel. Only effect should be heard. Not able to test right now, but should work. I have to ask why you would want this tho. ??
 
jimmys69 said:
(pre fader selected).
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This is the bit I was missing. So effectively, the fader for this group of vocals will not be the group track any more, but the effects chain fader?

Why do I want this? Well, I was going to add a small amount of compression and run it though my Line6 vocal Pre-amp plugin. I can see why I would want to apply *some* compression to only a portion of the original signal, and certainly I want 100% of the signal through the Preamp Plugin and zero percent of the original.

I've been fumbling around for 6 months now and haven't really cared about this because it's only been a few tracks to deal with, but now (as mentioned above) I have many backups going on. I actually have 3 groups of 5 part harmonies (Doing all the Night at the Opera Queen stuff) and I've been forced to get more organized.

Cheers,
FM
 
Newsflash - idiot discovers Pre-fader button in Cubase!

Yep, I got it now. Can fade to zero the original signal and have only the effected signal. Cool.

Now, is this the right way to do what I'm doing?

Cheers,
FM
 
I suppose I'll take that as a thank you. lol! Glad you got it squared away man. :D
 
Yeah, much thanks Jimmy.

Right, or wrong method, It's the info I was after.

Cheers,
FM
 
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