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What does one mean when they talk about effects as inserts or sends?

For example: from an article via theprojectstudiohandbook.com they write about how you shouldn't add chorus on vocals as an insert.

Is it possible to explain for a newbie? :)
 
Insert Effects are recorded with the instrument straight onto the Track when you`re doing your take. Send effects are looped onto the the assigned track on playback but dont effect your original recording.
If u record a vocal with a chorus insert then u cant take it off afterwards!
 
Really? I can take off chorus after recording vocals...
 
okay, the above is incorrect...or confusing me so much that it's incorrect ;)

inserts and sends are two different ways of adding effects to a track. To make it simple, always use sends to apply a time based effect and inserts to apply a dynamic based effect.

What happens with inserts is that the effect is inserted into our signal path, effectively replacing our original signal.
With sends (you'll also hear the term aux send used), our source signal is copied, sent to a time based effects unit, then sent back to an Aux master or two open channels.

Now, when do you know when to use each one? Well, the reason we use an insert with dynamic based effects (EQs, compressors, limiters, gates, etc.) is because we actually DO want to replace our signal with the new effected signal. The source signal hits that insert patch point on the mixer and goes out to the dynamic processor. We use a special cable called an insert cable (which is pretty much just a Y cable with a single TRS lead on one end and two TS leads on the other) to accomplish this. So the signal goes to the processor and returns back on the same cable to the point where it left on the mixer. It's just kind of a little detour for our signal. Now what you hear is the effected signal...compressed, EQed, gated, whatever.

With time based effects (chorus, reverb, delay, etc.), you generally want to blend the original source with the effected. We use aux sends to do this. On a mixer you will see an Aux Send knob on each channel. This turns up the volume to copy our source signal out the aux send patchpoints on the mixer. This generally goes out mono, to an effects processor, and then back in stereo. You usually return it to an aux master point which will give you a single fader/knob control over the newly effected signal, or to two open channel I/Os so you can add more EQ, another time based effect, a compressor...etc.
We don't use an insert because again, you want to blend it with the original signal. We call the effect signal "wet" and the original source, "dry." For example when applying reverb to a vocal it's nice to have the "dry" signal and add a little bit of "wet" for effect. If we had just inserted it we may find it sounds way too verby for our tastes....using an aux send gives us more control over the blend of the two.


So in your example of "you shouldn't add chorus as an insert..." I'd agree. Chorus should be on a send so that you have more control of wet vs. dry signal


Of course, these are generally good rules to follow but can easily be broken.
Aux sends are also used for headphone/cue mixes (because you can just copy the signal to create a headphone mix instead of inserting, which breaks our signal).

HTH
 
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Yeah...thats the way!!! Thats what i wanted to say but wasnt quite sure how to!!!
You live and learn!

Ian
 
Aaaaha! Thanks. So have I misunderstood you totally if I say that this only applies to hardware effects?

'cause I have nothing between the microphone and mixer (yet, can't afford any hardware for a while). So if I apply a reverb or chorus (plugins) I usually have controls that let me decide how dry/wet the sound should be.
 
Lomas said:
Aaaaha! Thanks. So have I misunderstood you totally if I say that this only applies to hardware effects?

'cause I have nothing between the microphone and mixer (yet, can't afford any hardware for a while). So if I apply a reverb or chorus (plugins) I usually have controls that let me decide how dry/wet the sound should be.

no it applies to both hardware and software
hardware and software effects will both have a wet/dry mix control...however, I still suggest using sends and inserts for their appropriate effects instead. It just gives you more control overall. Instead of controlling just the wet/dry mix just in the plugin...you'll actually have two separate channels that get separate control. Also very important if you are creating cue mixes.


You shouldn't put anything between the microphone and preamp in the mixer anyway. If you want to compress when going to tape/computer...use the inserts on the mixer. If you want to add reverb wheng going to tape/computer....use the sends on the mixer. But do this all AFTER the microphone is plugged into the preamp. You have to bring the microphone up to line level first. And also know that you can't undo effects when recording them to tape!
 
Ok...I'll check into that as soon as I can. Thanks for the info!

It's all so confusing, I'll probably be back with more questions even about this :)
 
So, I just thought I'd check to be sure.

In Cubase, I add a group channel track. I put an insert reverb on this group channel track and adjust it.

And then I have this audio track for my guitar. I put the group channel as a send effect on this track.

Am I doing this the way it should be done or is there some other way I should do it?

Also, is there a specific reason why I can't get the reverb to be in stereo when I just use it as an insert directly on the audio track?
 
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