Input Monitoring vocalist

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how the fuck do you not make it sound hollow and robotic to the vocalist when input monitoring...i'll get my L22 down to .7 ms and it still sounds hollow and robotic...but when i'm monitoring from my separate headphones it sounds ok...what gives???
 
Are you actually telling me that you can hear 0.7 ms latency when singing?

What I do (using 2.9 ms latency) is to just smack on some reverb, more than I would use in the mix. It's not perfect, but it is a sollution.
 
i think i hear it, but i KNOW it doesn't sound how its supposed to...i track mostly rappers so that may make a difference, the one singer i tracked didn't complain not to sure if she ain't wanna complain or if it was a none issue...i fixed it when using samplitude 7 cuz they allow you to select from s/w and h/w monitoring(h/w is no latency) sounds like i'm monitoring off an external mixer....guess samplitude has to adopt all vocal recording duties while sonar is forced primarily as preproduction...unless a sonar user can come to my rescue?

or it needs to be an update in sonar 3 or sonar 2.3 better yet...
 
Why not monitor off the input in SONAR too? It's not a software issue, it's a soundcard issue.
 
The only reason it should sound 'hollow' is if you are hearing the live track and a delayed track at the same time. Are you sure you are only monitoring one track? Even a 10 sec delay on a single track won't make it sound hollow or robotic.

Remember to mute the track that you are recording in the software. Otherwise you are probably hearing the recorded track being mixed back into the monitor mix through the main buss along with the direct hardware monitored track and that would definately cause it to sound hollow and robotic.
 
TexRoadkill said:
The only reason it should sound 'hollow' is if you are hearing the live track and a delayed track at the same time. Are you sure you are only monitoring one track? Even a 10 sec delay on a single track won't make it sound hollow or robotic.

Remember to mute the track that you are recording in the software. Otherwise you are probably hearing the recorded track being mixed back into the monitor mix through the main buss along with the direct hardware monitored track and that would definately cause it to sound hollow and robotic.


AH HAH!!...that sounds like that might be it..i'm not in front of my DAW so can't check

al chuck:

i select input monitoring in sonar and it sounds hollow...i do that in samplitude it doesn't both using ASIO, so it can't be a sound card issue...i'm thinking tex might be right about the mute thing...

thanks for all the help...BTW the card is the L22 if that matters(no fucking WDM :mad: )
 
tried the mute thing...i think it might of made it a lil better, but def not like i'm monitoring from an external mixer I.E samplitude 7
 
I would double check your settings because a single latent channel should just be delayed. There shouldn't be any change in the tone. Something must be doubling up your signal.
 
TexRoadkill said:
Remember to mute the track that you are recording in the software. Otherwise you are probably hearing the recorded track being mixed back into the monitor mix through the main buss along with the direct hardware monitored track and that would definately cause it to sound hollow and robotic.
Wouldn't that loose the whole point of Input Monitoring? Then you won't hear the effects as you record...

I'd mute the Direct Monitoring comming from your soundcard. Just make sure that the input to your soundcard isn't routed directly to the output...
 
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