Ingwie Malmsteen, change in his albums, his playing and general comments

[TheRockDoc]

A few years back, Yngwie was at (the defunct) Mars Music before a show he was doing. A friend who was working there offered to have a copy of a CD I had signed after I shook hands with him and said hello. Reportedly, he looked at it and said, "Holy (*&^, I didn't know anyone owned this!". I don't know who that spoke less of

He is truly a great technical player, and IMO has feeling. I have seen him on larger stages in NY, and seen him in front of 100 or so people at a small club in Georgia. At this point, he is about as dated to me as Rollo on Sanford and Son... but has AC/DC changed much in 25 years- other than the bald spots.

Some things stand the test of time- others don't. As fabulous a player, he really only appeals to other guitar players- and has never really written a song that could pass other than Joe Lynn Turner trying to pull him out of oblivion.

Sad... but he still set a standard for metal guitarists that only a few have lived up to- and he is the one who really spoke that style into existence- something he rarely gets credit for.

spoken from an Inklvay disciple

 

[honedawg]

Yingyang

A friend gave me tickets to his show at the Forum in the mid 80's I had heard a couple of his songs but wasn't very familiar except that everyone said he was awesome. I enjoyed the show for about 15 minutes. It was like a magician that does all his tricks really quick and then tries to show them to you again and again. There were 3 or 4 times when the rest of the band left the stage and it was just him playing the same runs in different positions. It was like he was wanking off. Halfway throught the show my buddy and I were calling him Yingyang.

 

[timmerman]

my fav. part of the interview ...

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Do you feel the glut of shredders that came out after you actually hurt your career?

It’s possible. There was a time when I was very frustrated by it. I mean, there was a whole boatload of guys who were not only doing what I was doing, but they were doing it blatantly. It’s flattering, sure, but it became a little ridiculous—almost like going to the mall and buying a poster of the Mona Lisa.

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Think he really means:.............."a whole boatload of guys who were not only doing what I was doing, but they were so much BETTER at it than me ...................."

 

[timmerman]

........................I first heard him when he was with Alcatraz and was blown away................................

Interesting point beezel, I am the opposite with the Alcatraz one: I first heard the album Steve Vai did with Alcatraz. Really liked it and was wondering for a long time how the Alcatraz album with Igwie on it would be...................then last year I run into the album in a corner of a record store: Compostitions are not all that much and the solos are............well we all know eh?

To me Alcatraz was raised a few notches by Vai's compositions and Solos. You can hear humour and fun in them, in Ingwie's solos I hear bragging, and it is the same kind of bragging all the way through.

I think it takes a long time for me to accept that Igwie IS a one trick pony. One reason why that is so hard for me to believe is the fact that the guitar does have SO MUCH MORE to offer for anyone who really serious about his/her playing.

 

[timmerman]

...............but has AC/DC changed much in 25 years...................

Sad... but he still set a standard for metal guitarists that only a few have lived up to- and he is the one who really spoke that style into existence- something he rarely gets credit for.........................

AC/DC=Fun, and they seem to be humble and respectful..................

YEs Igwie did set the standard, and most of us here do know that and will give him credit for it. Think most of us respect him for what he has done in the past, but we would like to see him digging deeper into some new ground.

Perhaps he is just happy with what he has achieved so far.

 

[Farview]

I think one of the things that makes him less impressive is the fact that anyone with a lot of time on their hands can play like this. He was the first to do it, but the style has no depth. Once you understand what is going on, it just takes practice to build up the speed. It helps if you don't have a girlfriend.

 

[beezelbubba]

Interesting point beezel, I am the opposite with the Alcatraz one: I first heard the album Steve Vai did with Alcatraz. Really liked it and was wondering for a long time how the Alcatraz album with Igwie on it would be...................then last year I run into the album in a corner of a record store: Compostitions are not all that much and the solos are............well we all know eh?

To me Alcatraz was raised a few notches by Vai's compositions and Solos. You can hear humour and fun in them, in Ingwie's solos I hear bragging, and it is the same kind of bragging all the way through.

I think it takes a long time for me to accept that Igwie IS a one trick pony. One reason why that is so hard for me to believe is the fact that the guitar does have SO MUCH MORE to offer for anyone who really serious about his/her playing.

I never heard the Vai Alcatraz.I really like Steve Vai,though!
The point I was making is that when I first heard his solo to "Jet to Jet"in 83 or 84,I had never heard ANYTHING like it!It was like the classical sounding scales of Randy Rhodes on crack.That's the mind blowing part.To be honest,I liked several of the songs on that album,and Yngwies guitar worked well w/in the songs.That's enough for me!I will agree,he's a one note song.So's Angus young,and I like him alot!One voice of many to choose from!YMMV!

 

[TheRockDoc]

AC/DC=Fun, and they seem to be humble and respectful..................

YEs Igwie did set the standard, and most of us here do know that and will give him credit for it. Think most of us respect him for what he has done in the past, but we would like to see him digging deeper into some new ground.

Perhaps he is just happy with what he has achieved so far.

AC/DC= fun- true. The most fun I have is taking bets on how the hell they keep making an A chord sound so good- like chocolate ice cream...just never seems to get dull. They definitely make the best chocolate ice cream.

Yngwie's flavor was a flavor of the month- 21 years ago. It was amazing the first time around. By the 20th time, you just got to wonder why someone would put so much energy (it takes a lot of hours to 'shed to shred'- I used to put in 4-5/day) to just go 'ta da'- or more like tadatadatadatada. It's like you wait for the big surprise and..oh...it's just like the last one. The difference is- I can hum Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution... The Queen is In Love just doesn't do the same for me. The one thing masterbators..eh hem... I mean shredders so often overlook is that it helps to have a real song to actually shred over..

just my opinion

Hehe

 

[beezelbubba]

I can't argue that it doesn't get old to hear the same shredding of scales over and over(for 20+years ),but part of the possible attraction is the amount of energy and excitement in it!Yngwies band was really kick ass in it's prime(I wouldn't know what they sound like now and don't really care!)They probably said all they had to say in 4 or 5 songs,but those songs really pushed the envelope.

 

[timmerman]

AC/DC= fun- true. The most fun I have is taking bets on how the hell they keep making an A chord sound so good- like chocolate ice cream...just never seems to get dull. They definitely make the best chocolate ice cream.

just my opinion

Hehe

Open String Sir, PowerChords using open strings mixed with fretted notes, and all of the are Root and 5ths, not often 3rds, and yes, they do sound fresh and is a lot of fun........................

Can quote you a metal-method with does deal with some of those chords, and if you see how it is done it is easy to make your own variations. If only we could sit together with both of us a gtr. and within less that 5 min. you would get the basic idea............................to make some of the variations depends a bit on your own fretboardknowledge and your imagination...........but really not too hard and so much FUN and those power riffs keep sounding fresh as you can vary so much with the groove, the notes you can add to them so.................................try it.

 

[timmerman]

I never heard the Vai Alcatraz.I really like Steve Vai,though!




The point I was making is that when I first heard his solo to "Jet to Jet"in 83 or 84,I had never heard ANYTHING like it!It was like the classical sounding scales of Randy Rhodes on crack.That's the mind blowing part.To be honest,I liked several of the songs on that album,and Yngwies guitar worked well w/in the songs.That's enough for me!I will agree,he's a one note song.So's Angus young,and I like him alot!One voice of many to choose from!YMMV!

Beezel, you would love that Alcatraz album, gosh forgotten what it is called, will look it up later, playing and overal feel is a bit what STeve did when he was with David Lee................really not all that different than his own albums, ..............only the songs and solos are a lot more concise when he works with others [heh where have we heard that before...........??!!!]

Your second point, well I can see that, if Alcatraz was your introduction to Igwie than you must have been blown away, I heard this alblum last year, so 15 yrs after I heard Igwie for the first time, plus I tend to listen with different ears these days.

 

[timmerman]

.................... anyone with a lot of time on their hands can play like this.................................... it helps if you don't have a girlfriend.

So be wary for musicians who play well, they may be the biggest loners of this world

 

[Sirnothingness]

It's YNGWIE not Igwie. Yngwie J. Malmsteen, thank you very much.

 

[Karmadog777]

I thought it was Ingwee or was in ying-vay ,some people says ying-wee but Im pretty sure thats wrong
Its alot easier just to say Tony MacAlpine

 

[Farview]

I thought it was Ingwee or was in ying-vay ,some people says ying-wee but Im pretty sure thats wrong
Its alot easier just to say Tony MacAlpine

It is pronounced ing-vay and spelled Yngwie.

 

[Sirnothingness]

I remember back in the 80's I used to call him new-ee. That's how I thought it was pronounced. yngyway, he is a fat ass now. Man, lose some weight and cut that hair man.