In celebration of the French takeover

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I have stopped shaving my armpits! I'm still drinking Aussie wine though, it's much cheaper! :p
 
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I'm drinking a nice cup of Dilmah tea with a little honey & very, very little milk (the honey is in addition to the mrs who is, as goes without saying so why am I saying it) as i consider the options - a good Oz shitaz (can't use the european appelation as it might bring a copyright infringement notice), a good Oz Methidschameenwahzzz, a good Oz Penisnoise or, perhaps a nice Oz flagon of Mozzie.
How about a nice Oz shabeee sorbet?
Oh, back to the theme: i celebratio I' leavin of th las lette o eve wor I writ jus lik goo frenc pronounciatio . Tre bo mo cher!
 
rayc said:
I'm drinking a nice cup of Dilmah tea with a little honey & very, very little milk (the honey is in addition to the mrs who is, as goes without saying so why am I saying it) as i consider the options - a good Oz shitaz (can't use the european appelation as it might bring a copyright infringement notice), a good Oz Methidschameenwahzzz, a good Oz Penisnoise or, perhaps a nice Oz flagon of Mozzie.
How about a nice Oz shabeee sorbet?
Oh, back to the theme: i celebratio I' leavin of th las lette o eve wor I writ jus lik goo frenc pronounciatio . Tre bo mo cher!
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Shiraz is not an appellation of origin unless you're in Iran or something. The French call the grape syrah (different from petite sirah!), but varietal labeling is rare in France except for the cheap stuff for export. The grape would ordinarily be a component of various Rhône appellations.

Speaking of which, I feel that nearly all varietals are better blended, something few Californians seem to believe. They also think that raisins make good wine, which is why I never drink California wine if I can possibly avoid it.

The Aussies are putting a few basic blends on the cheap shelf. I generally buy the merlot-shiraz 1.5L for $10 (that's a blend you wouldn't see in a French appellation, it's not allowed to mix Bordelais and Rhône grapes and label it anything other than vin de pays), but if I have some leftover white (usually not, too acidic for my Nexium-dependent esophagus), I'll blend that in too, up to 25% or so (10% is allowed in Rhône).

Aussie wine is cheap because they have the best and most mechanized production in the world. They also have some of the finest science coming out of U. Adelaide, and their growers seem to pay attention and put best practices into practice without getting too bogged down in the silliness that occasionally afflicts American and European growers (biodynamics . . . look it up!)
 
mshilarious said:
Shiraz is not an appellation of origin unless you're in Iran or something. The French call the grape syrah (different from petite sirah!), but varietal labeling is rare in France except for the cheap stuff for export. The grape would ordinarily be a component of various Rhône appellations.
..The Aussies are putting a few basic blends on the cheap shelf. I generally buy the merlot-shiraz 1.5L for $10 (that's a blend you wouldn't see in a French appellation, it's not allowed to mix Bordelais and Rhône grapes and label it anything other than vin de pays), but if I have some leftover white (usually not, too acidic for my Nexium-dependent esophagus), I'll blend that in too, up to 25% or so (10% is allowed in Rhône).
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Syrah', sirah, shiraz :eek: -barely keep it straight. I got going liking those big brutal 17% Calif. 'petite sirah's over almost all the 'well balanced' cabs and such 'winning the gold, thus.. :p
I just checked a bottle of Lindeman's Shiraz' and that's all it says, so I guess all it means is '51% or more'?
 
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mixsit said:
Syrah', sirah, shiraz :eek: -barely keep it straight. I got going liking those big brutal 17% Calif. 'petite sirah's over almost all the 'well balanced' cabs and such 'winning the gold, thus.. :p
I just checked a bottle of Lindeman's Shiraz' and that's all it says, so I guess all it means is '51% or more'?
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No, 75% or more. Blending laws vary from country to country, so this is only US advice. Imports to the US must comply with US labeling law, so it's true for all wine you buy in the US. Appellation laws vary quite a bit country to country too. In France, if you want an AOC designation (Appellation d’origine contrôlée), you must follow all rules of that AOC (varietals allowed, viticultural and oenological practices, etc.) For example, if you grow chardonnay in Bordeaux, you cannot label it Bordeaux.

That's not true in the US; any varietal you grow in say CA can be labeled as CA, or county, etc., if it is 75%. Then there is the AVA, American Viticultural Area. You have to apply for recognition of an AVA, the process is partly intelligent and partly silly. It is an attempt to have wine regions recognized as in Europe, because for example CA is so large that it is nearly meaningless as an appellation. Even at the county level, there can be such wide differences that appellations are appropriate. To label your wine within an AVA, you have to have 85%. If an AVA supersedes a local jurisdiction, it can get tricky--"Napa Valley" is an AVA, and I don't think you can get away with using "Napa County" and doing 75%, but I dunno, I'm not a wine lawyer (yes, that is a real specialty) :eek:
 
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