Imported midi volume

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I have imported a midi file with 8 tracks. Each track has its volume set at 127...but it sounds way down, very faint compared to when I create midi myself.

Any suggestions as to how I can lift the gain?
 
Is it low in volume before the import?

If you manually set each track to 127 in volume, is it still low?
 
What is the sound source?
It could be the settings at that end.
If you're using the VSC the setup menu has a volume slider.
Did you try the midi effects/velocity?
 
Paul, do you know that MIDI volume (CC 07) works conjunction with Expression (CC 11). Just because the volume set to 127, the tracks sounds remain low if the CC 11 set to lower than 100. For sure, open the tracks Event List, and see if there's hiden controller thingee event. Anyway, what's your MIDI devices ? Internal (SoundFonts, DXi, VSC, etc...) or external ?

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THanks for your response guys. I am not very well acquanted with midi so bear with me. The song is for my daughters phone, she has a fancy one:rolleyes: that can import 50k midi files...but the volume is way too low...and it is the same in Sonar too, even though each of the tracks shows a volume level of 127.

James, what is a CC11?And a CC07?

Acid, I'll try messing about with it in VSC, see if that makes any difference.
 
Hey Paul881,

Where have you been?

Check the velocity in the MIDI file as this will also reduce the overall volume. Open the file and Edit>Select>All then go Edit>MIDI Effects>CakeWalk FX>Velocity Set all velocities to 100 (or higher if you want) and play the file to see what happens.

If this works, you can send me a Korg MA-30 metronome. If it doesn't work, just send it anyway :D

Oh yes, and check the Hey Moskus thread if you are in need of a little light relief...;)

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Bluesmeister, thanks for your message, glad to be back. I haven’t been doing any recording lately due to my DAW being crap and time pressure of work. But its nice to know I was missed!

I am currently at work so can’t fire up Sonar but I can see that the velocity is set to 100 so by increasing the setting to 127 it should be louder. Thanks for the tip, I’ll try it out later and post back.

I'll also check out the Moskus thread...I could do with a laugh today:(
 
Paul881 said:
James, what is a CC11?And a CC07?

CC (Control Change), is also known as MIDI Control Message. You know, the benefit of MIDI is not only sending the note on - off message to your synth. ;) It also can be used to controll many other feature of the synth. I quoted this from SONAR's help...

Controllers
Controllers are the MIDI events such as volume, sustain pedal, and pan that you use to change the sound while you're playing. You can enter controller data from within SONAR, or record them from external devices such as MIDI keyboards.

Controllers let you control the detail and character of your music. Say you're playing a guitar sound on your synthesizer, but it sounds lifeless and dull. That's partly because a guitar player doesn't just play notes one after another--he often bends or slides on the strings to put emotion into his playing. You can use controllers in the same way, creating bends, volume swells, and other effects that make sounds more realistic and more fun to listen to.

Your computer can work the controllers on your electronic instrument by sending MIDI Controller messages. The MIDI specification allows for 128 different types of controllers, many of which are used for standard purposes. For example, controller 7 is normally used for volume events, and controller 10 is normally used for pan. Every controller can take on a value ranging from 0 to 127.

The Piano Roll toolbar contains several dropdown lists that let you choose the controller you want to see and edit. The contents of these lists depend on the output and channel settings and on the instrument assigned to that output and channel. Different instruments use controllers in different ways.

...there said CC 07 is normally used for volume events. However, there's also CC 11 (Expression events), that works to make an increasement / decreasement based on the CC07. In audio tracks, it works like Clip Envelopes to your Tracks Volume. :( Gee... I think I just made you more confuse... :) Anyone has better word ? Sorry, I'm a bit cold tonight... :o

Jaymz



ps. We all miss you Paul...;)
 
Thanks to all.It worked! Increasing velocity from 100 to 127 had the desired effect - more noise! Thanks Bluesmeister.

And thank you James for the technical description. I don't think I will ever fully understand midi.....:(

I'll try to lurk in the BBS a bit more but its difficult at the mo. with work. Internet Police are out and about monitoring internet access of employees during work time:(
 
Jaymez,

I re-read your post about controlers...and I think I understand it:rolleyes: I'll give it a try tonight. Many thanks.
 
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Paul881 said:
Thanks to all.It worked! Increasing velocity from 100 to 127 had the desired effect - more noise! Thanks Bluesmeister.
Hey no problemo Paul dude! So, when can I expect the metronome??? :D

Oh, and shouldn't you be working right now??? I know I am! ;)

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BluesMeister, metronome is on its way;)
BTW, don't mention the Cricket.....and I won't mention Rugby:D
 
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