I'm wanting to create my OWN drum parts ...

[billy3000]

I had no idea

Any music computer program, I use Cubase, and a MIDI keyboard would be a good way to go. Just play the parts with your fingers on a MIDI keyboard.

The reason I like Cubase over all others in this respect is because it has Logical Edit which is a great way of editing the parts afterwards.

Lots of songs have been made this way. I've had, and still have, MIDI drum input devices, like a Kat controller, and prefer playing the parts on my MIDI keyboard to that.

cubase has midi drum capability? thanks for that dinty! so plugins could
include better samples etc?? AFTER I program a drum part with the keyboard?

I need to read the book again. but thanks! that really solves a litany
of problems. I downloaded beatcraft tonite. it seems silly. but it's a
7 day trial, so it should go away in it's own, I hope

 

[kcearl]

i use an MPD24 to bang the beats into ableton....I have SD2 for acoustic sounding drums and use samples and my JV-1080 for machine drums...the advantage with ableton is that once you programme your drums you can introduce a "groove" swing template to it so its not just boom boom tish robitic..

Poise is a great sampler that I use with the mpd to load up 8 samples per pad...

 

[kcearl]

cubase has midi drum capability? thanks for that dinty! so plugins could
include better samples etc?? AFTER I program a drum part with the keyboard?

I need to read the book again. but thanks! that really solves a litany
of problems. I downloaded beatcraft tonite. it seems silly. but it's a
7 day trial, so it should go away in it's own, I hope

the problem with beatcraft is that you cant export midi...only wave files...which in itself isnt an issue except it has timing issues...

when you export a 120bpm file into your daw you'll notice it actually shows up as 119.52bpm (or something like that) so unless your daw automatically stretches loops to its timing your drums will eventually go out of time with the rest of the track...stupid mistake by acoustica but one they seem to have given up addressing

 

[dintymoore]

cubase has midi drum capability?...

I don't know any music program that doesn't. Lots of people here like Reaper. I like Cubase. It's like shoes, if your happy that's all that matters.

Last month I got Steven Slate drums for $20 and have been using that for snare and kick lately. I might add the toms later, although my Roland SC-8850's toms aren't terrible. The cymbals on all of them are barely passable. I want to end up using my own cymbals with a drum sampler but haven't got around to it. For some reason cymbal samples continue to be 10 - 20 years behind what the industry needs. To me, the importance of cymbals has been underestimated.

Here's a little ditty I did on Cubase with Steven Slate drums, I played it with my fingers on an M-Audio, keyboard into Cubase. And after it's recorded you can mess with it - change snares, change tuning etc...

http://musicmusicmusic.cn/ssd.html

 

[billy3000]

thanks everyone

I don't know any music program that doesn't. Lots of people here like Reaper. I like Cubase. It's like shoes, if your happy that's all that matters.

Last month I got Steven Slate drums for $20 and have been using that for snare and kick lately. I might add the toms later, although my Roland SC-8850's toms aren't terrible. The cymbals on all of them are barely passable. I want to end up using my own cymbals with a drum sampler but haven't got around to it. For some reason cymbal samples continue to be 10 - 20 years behind what the industry needs. To me, the importance of cymbals has been underestimated.

Here's a little ditty I did on Cubase with Steven Slate drums, I played it with my fingers on an M-Audio, keyboard into Cubase. And after it's recorded you can mess with it - change snares, change tuning etc...

http://musicmusicmusic.cn/ssd.html

thanks for the link dinty. will give it a listen. you are right. cymbals
are still not groovy. I honestly cannot find anything about drums in my
manual. it's not a great manual, in my opinion. maybe they need to make it
available in large print

 

[dintymoore]

... I honestly cannot find anything about drums in my manual...

That's because laying down a MIDI drum track is little different than laying down a MIDI bass track.

The only difference would be that you choose a drum patch instead of a bass patch.

I commend you on wanting to lay down your own drum tracks. MIDI or live, that's the only thing I've found that works. Using loops other people make is ok for learning and having fun but I doubt if pro quality results will come from that. A drum track needs to be custom made for a song. Drummers never play the same in the second verse as the first; that and other reasons are why I'm not big on drum loops.

 

[billy3000]

thanks for the help dinty!

That's because laying down a MIDI drum track is little different than laying down a MIDI bass track.

The only difference would be that you choose a drum patch instead of a bass patch.

I commend you on wanting to lay down your own drum tracks. MIDI or live, that's the only thing I've found that works. Using loops other people make is ok for learning and having fun but I doubt if pro quality results will come from that. A drum track needs to be custom made for a song. Drummers never play the same in the second verse as the first; that and other reasons are why I'm not big on drum loops.

I hate drum loops. it's silly to me. I am very new to the digital computer
recording world. I used to do a lot of stuff in studios for people. nothing
all that grandiose. demos, commercials blah blah in the good old analog
days. also I have fiddled about with 4 tracks and 8 tracks at home.
glad I got cubase instead of a digital multitack. or, maybe I'd be saying
that about the multitrack too

I used to have an HR16 drum machine which of course is now
somewhere waiting for the archaeologists to come and study it.

the concept was nice and simple. and it SOON became apparent
that if I used a loop or a pattern, even one of my own, it would be too
busy after putting some more stuff on. for drums now in the present tense
I want cubase to do what the HR16 did. boom chick book chick 1234
and have a real drummer later, or tweak parts myself. anyway, sorry for
the loop rant. there must be an idiot book somewhere to help with cubase drums. if yes, I have it all knocked.

so, back to MIDI. midi spooks me. always has. but I must conquer my
fears. I've got an audiophile 2496 pci sound card, and it sounds like
all I need to do is plug in a keyboard and start experimenting.

will keep you apprised of my progress. cheers man!

 

[LAWL_im_so_EMO]

use a program called guitar pro 5

Once you have programmed your drums, export the midi and import it into your DAW

From there, set the output of the midi track to your drum program.
Your drum program will play it, since the midi is standard midi.

 

[JacobCampbell]

use a program called guitar pro 5

Once you have programmed your drums, export the midi and import it into your DAW

From there, set the output of the midi track to your drum program.
Your drum program will play it, since the midi is standard midi.

Yeas, this is a good way. I always doing it. BTW guitar pro 6 is available now. I can try with them

 

[philbagg]

use a program called guitar pro 5

Once you have programmed your drums, export the midi and import it into your DAW

From there, set the output of the midi track to your drum program.
Your drum program will play it, since the midi is standard midi.

2 things:

1) You don't need to spend money on guitar pro to program midi... Any DAW will do this.

2) The drum notes mightn't necessarily match up on the export/import. What you had as a kick drum in Guitar Pro could be a crash cymbal in the DAW, and that'd get really annoying