I'm recording with an sm57 but it isn't very sensitive

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Also, I'm curious who left me a rating "you have no idea who Harvey is do you?"
Whoever you are, what's your point?

I checked out Harvey's site (sorry to talk about you in the 3rd person when you're probably going to be reading this).
He's obviously a talented engineer with something most of us don't have, the years in the industry, which accounts for A LOT (sometimes everything).

I don't think what I said was invalid, nor was I EVER personally attacking everyone. So far in my career I have been very luck to have worked/performed/studied with plenty of great musicians and engineers with as much experience as Harvey, and as long a credit list. I think what's important is not how long or star-studded your resume is (I could start my own name dropping here) but your ability to debate concepts and ideas which is the point of this forum.

And again, Harvey, I've never had anything bad to say to you, and if I ever had the chance to work with you, I have no doubt it would be a great experience and I could learn a lot. As young engineers we all to remember, there's always more to learn, especially from those who invented the industry.

I could probably keep going, I'll stop now.
 
myhatbroke said:
are you serious? where do you live? Austin? I didnt understand "NAMM" how did you know where i live? myspace?
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I'm near Denton, between Krum and Boliver - about 45 minutes from Garland.

NAMM is the "National Association of Music Merchants" and this weekend is their big show at the Austin Convention Center. It's where all the manufacturers show off their new products for the coming year. I have a lot of friends there and it'll give me a chance to hang out with them.

Yes, I noticed you were in Garland from your Myspace page.
 
RAK said:
Also, I'm curious who left me a rating "you have no idea who Harvey is do you?"
Whoever you are, what's your point?

I checked out Harvey's site (sorry to talk about you in the 3rd person when you're probably going to be reading this).
He's obviously a talented engineer with something most of us don't have, the years in the industry, which accounts for A LOT (sometimes everything).

I don't think what I said was invalid, nor was I EVER personally attacking everyone. So far in my career I have been very luck to have worked/performed/studied with plenty of great musicians and engineers with as much experience as Harvey, and as long a credit list. I think what's important is not how long or star-studded your resume is (I could start my own name dropping here) but your ability to debate concepts and ideas which is the point of this forum.

And again, Harvey, I've never had anything bad to say to you, and if I ever had the chance to work with you, I have no doubt it would be a great experience and I could learn a lot. As young engineers we all to remember, there's always more to learn, especially from those who invented the industry.

I could probably keep going, I'll stop now.
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Well, it wern't me who left that comment. You commented on my out of 1 into 2 plan. I clarified what I meant. It was a very civil discourse. We still haven't solved the problem, but there may be an end in sight if he brings the box over.

As a matter of fact I've got a broken SM7 (that I bought from Bruce Sweiden) I gotta send into you guys.
 
woa whats the name of your studio? Im going to be in Whichita Falls by August cus im going to Midwestern and its not that far away. Ofcourse Garland and Rowlett are alot closer. :D . Anyways that would be cool to see a "real" studio...
 
RAK said:
So I guess this definition further hinges on your definition of a "weak signal"
I think a mic level signal would universally be considered "weak." As for Line-Level, I would inherently say no. If line-level was "weak" then mic-level would have to be considered "weaker" i guess. But this is all just language, it doesn't effect how you choose to use the signals..
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If the first preamp had enough gain to bring the actual level of the mic all the way up to line level, he wouldn't need to hook it into the second preamp and wouldn't have the problem he is having. The problem is that preamp 1 doesn't have the gain to get the mic level signal up to line level. So you would have to run it through another gain stage to accomplish this.
 
myhatbroke said:
woa whats the name of your studio? Im going to be in Wichita Falls by August cus im going to Midwestern and its not that far away. Ofcourse Garland and Rowlett are a lot closer. :D . Anyways that would be cool to see a "real" studio...
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"Indian Trail Recording Studio" (www.ITRstudio.com). There's a map on my "Contact" page.
 
Farview said:
If the first preamp had enough gain to bring the actual level of the mic all the way up to line level, he wouldn't need to hook it into the second preamp and wouldn't have the problem he is having. The problem is that preamp 1 doesn't have the gain to get the mic level signal up to line level. So you would have to run it through another gain stage to accomplish this.
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Wow first person to agree with me. Or actually with the Guitar Center guy. :p
 
myhatbroke said:
Wow first person to agree with the Guitar Center guy. :p
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Them's fightin' words where I come from. :D

The preamps are weak, but if your levels (in Cubase) are peaking at -12dbfs with a distorted electric guitar, those are good levels. That 'get it as close to clipping' thing is just bad, outdated advise. You might be fine.
 
Wow first person to agree with me.
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Huh? I thought that was what everyone was trying to tell you to do.

Yup. Your preamp is 40db but your 57 is 96K. You need toobs to give you warm pro levels. And a lava lamp. Do they sell those at GC? If not, they should. They would make a killing.
 
Reggie said:
Huh? I thought that was what everyone was trying to tell you to do.

Yup. Your preamp is 40db but your 57 is 96K. You need toobs to give you warm pro levels. And a lava lamp. Do they sell those at GC? If not, they should. They would make a killing.
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hahaha lava lamp...well i bought the vtb-1 tube preamp :D hope it works!
 
myhatbroke said:
hahaha lava lamp...well i bought the vtb-1 tube preamp :D hope it works!
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Well, the VTB-1 will definitely solve the "not enough gain" thing. End of problem.
 
I doubt if that's the end of the problem, but

what I want to know is what kind of a problem can I come up with that will get me an invite to hang out with Harvey?
 
Cardioidpotent said:
what I want to know is what kind of a problem can I come up with that will get me an invite to hang out with Harvey?
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If your problem is something like "I have too much beer", you will get invited to lots of places.
 
Cardioidpotent said:
what I want to know is what kind of a problem can I come up with that will get me an invite to hang out with Harvey?
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Hey, anybody can come up and hang out here whenever they're in the Neighborhood.
 
Reggie said:
Huh? I thought that was what everyone was trying to tell you to do.QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly.

Harvey, I know it wasn't you. No bones between us, I just didn't understand some other people's comments (especially the anonymous type, that's weak).

Farview, once again: yes he needs another gain stage, I think we all agreed on that a long time ago.
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I just re-read (skimmed) the entire thread.

Myhatbroke, is it possible for you to take pictures of your setup and post them on here, so we can see your gain/trim/volume (whatever you wish to call them) knobs and where they're at (including the software part of the chain). I'm still skeptical that you can't get a decent signal out of this setup, but I'm willing to admit the Lexicon's pre's really are that bad (since I've never used it).

You still never responded to whether or not there is a mic pad switch on the back of your lexicon box.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Hey, anybody can come up and hang out here whenever they're in the Neighborhood.
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So how far is Sanger from Austin?
 
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