I'm pretty new and have some questions

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Ironically (in the non Alanis Morisette sense) Apple Mac G4 & G5 are called PPC which stands for........... Power PC

If we are comparing apples to apples (ha ha) it wold be fairer to compare Apple to HP or Dell or Gateway etc since they all bolt together hardware made by Intel, Asus, Nvidia, WD etc into a case with their branding on it and sell it with a an operating system and bundled software to the starry eyed consumer

Windows can very easilly run on a mac and with some work you can get Apple OS to run on a non Apple PC (it's a little bit harder since apple put a bunch of stuff in there to try and control how it can be used)

MS is simply a software developer who have come up with an OS that is now virtually ubiquitous. Because it is everywhere it has to be able to run on literaly billions of system configurations: AMD Chips on Asus boards with Seagate drives, no pci cards: Intel Chips on Gigabyte boards with Nvidia south bridges, with SLId Graphics processors; etc, etc, etc. This can lead to some stability problems since the developer can't necessarily make soomething that will work flawlessly with everyconceivable system config.

Apple get round this by trying to tightly control their OS and software by telling you how you may and may not use the software that you legitimately purchase from them. I believe if you read the EULA agreements on their OS and software it will tell you that you breach contract by attempting to use their software on a machine they did not sell you. So between this and the BIOS stuff they code to prevent the OS from working with Hardware they don't choose and their fairly closed software development policies, they have a very stable platform.
If Apple OS were as open to user abuse and choice of hardware and software as MS OS then it would have exatcly the same stability and security concerns that Windows does.
Apple have also put out of business several small companies that attempted to sell custom computers with Apple OSs on them

OK so that solves the Mac, PC debate... now on to the middle east.
 
did apple beat psystar?

i'm not challenging you..i just haven't heard anything about it in ages.
 
Apple won the case agains Psystar in late 2009. I believe Pystar appealed the verdict earlier this year but I don't know if it resolved yet.

I can't get Psystars website to open on any of my systems so maybe they are gone? (or under permanent denial of service attack from apple :eek:)

I wonder if the recent Jailbreaking the iPhone verdict in the US (Which Apple lost) will have broader implications for their strict software license controls?
 
thanks for that..

it'll be interesting to see what unfolds.

tbh, i don't really think other companies should be able to use or sell apple's software on their machines..

apple have obviously worked hard to control their products and it's worked well..

at the same time, i don't wanna have to sacrifice my 'hackintosh' either :(
 
I would say I do about 50% of my work on the mac and 50% on IBM compatibles. Primarily cause logic is new to me and Sonar will only
run on the pc unless of course ran through boot camp on the mac.

I've only used the Macs for a little over a year. I never had to reload
the OS on a mac, but have had to do it to every single pc I've ever
owned.

The design and engineering that goes into a mac product is way above
anything I seen in a pc even something like a Dell precision.

I guess I found out the hard way both of my Macs have been knocked
off the tops of racks or counters and required absolutely no repair or
duct tape. While I haven't had that happen to any of my other pc's I
suspect they may have splattered.
 
RandyW said:
I would say I do about 50% of my work on the mac and 50% on IBM compatibles. Primarily cause logic is new to me and Sonar will only
run on the pc unless of course ran through boot camp on the mac.

I've only used the Macs for a little over a year. I never had to reload
the OS on a mac, but have had to do it to every single pc I've ever
owned.

The design and engineering that goes into a mac product is way above
anything I seen in a pc even something like a Dell precision.

I guess I found out the hard way both of my Macs have been knocked
off the tops of racks or counters and required absolutely no repair or
duct tape. While I haven't had that happen to any of my other pc's I
suspect they may have splattered.
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Wow thats lucky.. mac hardware is actually worse or at least have a higher failure rate.

and as i stated, if it were a dell with complete care, it would have been fixed for free if it shattered.
 
Dr. Varney said:
I totally agree, mate.

My brother in law has a PC and is a far, far better musician than I'll ever be. He's waiting until he can buy a Mac before getting into the whole home recording thing. I said "You've got a PC, I can direct you to some free/cheap software so you can play around a bit and for the price of a used pro-sound card and some extra RAM, you could be up and running in a few days..." But no, he insists on getting a Mac before he even strikes a note. He's heard of Garageband and this, to him, is where it's at.

Dr. V
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i agree. that is lunacy!

but i thoroughly disagree about the lack of options on a mac. ok simple stuff like the cursor icon and things like that are limited but when u know how u can delve deep into the mac with ease that i never found when using a pc.
all the system files are so much more open and accesable once u know how. the main limitation is that switch over from one os to the other.

also i found the pc much less universally compatible! at least apple try - or make a point of seeming to try... :rolleyes:
 
They're both tools. They're both great. They both have their fans. They both have their detractors. They're both able to inspire great debate. They're both inanimate objects. They both do the job. And neither can love you back.
 
grimtraveller said:
They're both tools. They're both great. They both have their fans. They both have their detractors. They're both able to inspire great debate. They're both inanimate objects. They both do the job. And neither can love you back.
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oh dear people are starting to get profound on us (and very poetically so i might add)

wise words from the grimtraveller :rolleyes:
 
Chili said:
No, not correct, still a pc.



Not correct, either. Did microsoft ever make computers?? I don't think so, but maybe. If they did, they never had any kind of marketshare. They write the software, not build the hardware.

No one can custom build a mac, because Apple has never allowed it. But any other personal computer would be considered a PC. The term PC came from computers that were traditionally described as IBM compatible. That has since moved on to include any personal computer that is not a mac.
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Thank you Chili :)
 
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