I'm getting ripped off on ebay!!!!

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Conflicting language can be construed against the party that drafted the language, in this case, the seller. He is responsible for what he put in the auction. It's certainly enough to hammer the seller by opening a dispute with eBay. If he is straight up, he'll take the $90 you've already paid him for shipping.
 
depending on what type of guy he is you may want to let him know it was a mistake and you would like to retract your bid see if he understands. I mad a mistake once and the guy asked if I knew what I was bidding on after I had won the item. I though I was bidding on drumkit from hell superior when in fact it was DFH 2. The stock photo looked very similar the more expensive one. I just went a head and bought it anyway since I got it for 80 buck total. try the good guy first he may work with you.
 
mshilarious said:
He is responsible for what he put in the auction.
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He DID, in fact, say that there WERE shiping charges in the auctions description. It doesnt get much clearer than that. If the buyer doesnt take the initiative to contact the seller, and proceeds to bid anyway, its no ones fault but the buyers.

By bidding on an auction, you accept the auctions terms...And in this case, sure, they may have been a bit contradictory... BUT right there in plain sight it says that there are shipping charges... Would you just blatantly disregard those TWO sentences written personally by the SELLER based on the fact that there was a bit of confusion?? I think not.

Would you dive head first into water where the depth was unknown??

HELL NO!! lol

Ok, I'm done on this thread. Sorry if offended anyone, but its just a weird thing for me to think about -- Why would you place a bid without knowing (or even having a slight idea for that matter) the final costs??

All I can say is maybe try to dispute it with ebay... Who knows, maybe you'll get the benefit of the doubt!

Hope it works out for ya!
 
1. nice score. $300 looks like a good price (if it works)

2. $191 is ridiculous. should be more like $60. but what do I know.

3. get your own shipping quote. include that with your complaint.

4. don't pay the $300. if it's broken you'll just be more upset.

this is obviously a scam; I wouldn't pay it.
 
so Falken you think that this is a $300 is a fair price. I suppose that if $300 is a good price then I may be alright afterall I just don't like the idea of $191 shipping.

Is $300 a normal price for a mixer like this?
 
whjr15 said:
He DID, in fact, say that there WERE shiping charges in the auctions description. It doesnt get much clearer than that. If the buyer doesnt take the initiative to contact the seller, and proceeds to bid anyway, its no ones fault but the buyers.
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I am not saying I would bid on such an auction. Yes, best avoided.

But that is not the point. The OP won the auction. I am simply trying to advocate for the OP, and from that position, I would argue every potential issue I could raise on his behalf. And I'm not even a lawyer!

And yes, it gets much clearer than the seller's conflicting language. Read any of my auctions, where I either flat out state the shipping charge, or I use the shipping calculator. The seller was too damn lazy to use the calculator, too lazy to check his auction, too sloppy to draft it right in the first place. Therefore, the seller should lose.

I would beat the seller over the head with the two places in the auction this appeared:

Shipping costs: FREE
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Ambiguities are resolved against the party who drafted the language. That's a basic legal principle. It's the seller's fault the auction is contradictory, so he should lose.

Shipping costs: FREE
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Why is anyone trying to defend this seller? He is sloppy, lazy, and maybe dishonest--he might know the mixer doesn't work, and he is probably trying to grossly overcharge for shipping.

I calculated a 90 lb. package from here (NC) to CA, retail dropoff, residential delivery, that is about 80 bucks UPS. The OP has already paid $90. The seller should ship, lest he be forced to give back the $90.
 
whjr15 said:
That's why I say....... ASK them for a quote before you even BID!!

Easy concept here.
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It may seem like an easy concept, but in reality it's not always that simple. Sometimes they won't give you a quote, or don't respond to email questions before the auction ends. Often they haven't even packed the item yet and have no idea what shipping will cost and don't want to be locked into a quote. It's not as simple as asking for a quote and getting it.

Quite often, people selling their gear on eBay have only very rudimentary concepts of customer service (or how to properly pack equipment for shipping). It's important to remember that these are often individuals who have little or no experience in retail sales.

If that mixer is in a hard case, I'd be amazed if shipping is only $90. I think you'd have to know the true weight and measurements of the case before you could calculate that accurately.

The one thing that can get annoying as a seller is that some buyers have *no* concept what it actually costs to ship something across country. I mean, I've had people look up the specs in an online manual somewhere, take that weight to the UPS calculator, and then think that's what it costs to ship the item. Totally forgetting that there is a box, packing materials to protect the unit, a manual and possibly other accessories as well.

Having shipped so much equipment to my auction winners, I have a pretty good idea what something will cost to ship. I can actually guess it pretty close now. That's why it burned me up when some guy stuck me for $30 to ship a light one rack space fx box across the state. I *know* it cost a fraction of that.
 
I understand this now. I think what I am going to do is hit him somewhere in the middle. He sent me dimensions for the case and a weight so did my own ups quote and the shipping came to $125 so I messaged him with this information and kindly asked him if we could ship the unit ups ground.

I made a mistake by not being thorough enough and he was very poor in his presentation of what the auction entailed. I figure it's still a decent deal on the mixer and it all comes with learning I guess.

I'll try and keep everyone posted on my situation as it unfolds.
 
SonicAlbert said:
Sometimes they won't give you a quote, or don't respond to email questions before the auction ends. Often they haven't even packed the item yet and have no idea what shipping will cost and don't want to be locked into a quote. It's not as simple as asking for a quote and getting it.
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Simple Solution:

Dont bid!
 
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