I'm curious.. (OS)

[Kryogh]

Are you guys install your audio WinXp in "ASPI" or "Standard PC"??

 

[WATYF]

With the system I'm using now, I had to install it as a Standard PC to get rid of a number of bugs that were occuring while using Pro Tools.


But, the system I had before that ran Pro Tools just fine with ACPI.


I'd say that if you have a PC that's dedicated just for audio, it's a safe bet to use Standard PC. But if you need to use the computer for everything else as well as audio, try out ACPI, and if it gives you trouble, reinstall it as Standard PC. (or do a dual boot of Standard PC, which is what I did.)


WATYF

 

[Kryogh]

I've been thru all this about lets say about 2 years ago with a Delta 1010. I had sooooo many problems with this card at this time.

So, in fact, I'm just asking to see is there is still problems with the Deltas about this.

May sound weird, or useless, or..? But at this time, I had to stick to DirectX 7, and I had a Gigabytes mobo, witch was using VIA chipsets at this time. Dude, I tried for about 6 months, almost all day long, to make my 1010 work well and I finally sold it. Was like hell...

Now, I L O V E my Nuendo soundcard

And I dont need anymore to be in Standard PC, everything is flawless

 

[brzilian]

I've been thru all this about lets say about 2 years ago with a Delta 1010. I had sooooo many problems with this card at this time.

So, in fact, I'm just asking to see is there is still problems with the Deltas about this.

May sound weird, or useless, or..? But at this time, I had to stick to DirectX 7, and I had a Gigabytes mobo, witch was using VIA chipsets at this time. Dude, I tried for about 6 months, almost all day long, to make my 1010 work well and I finally sold it. Was like hell...

Now, I L O V E my Nuendo soundcard

And I dont need anymore to be in Standard PC, everything is flawless

First off, what's a Nuendo souncard?

I fail to understand the point of your post. You seem to be bashing the Delta 1010 when you have no reason to do so. It is common knowledge older VIA chipsets didn't play well with most soundcards. What does any of this have to do with using ACPI or not?

Sounds like you should have sold your system rather than the 1010...

 

[Kryogh]

First off, what's a Nuendo souncard?

I fail to understand the point of your post. You seem to be bashing the Delta 1010 when you have no reason to do so. It is common knowledge older VIA chipsets didn't play well with most soundcards. What does any of this have to do with using ACPI or not?

Sounds like you should have sold your system rather than the 1010...

OK,
1- sounds like you dont know that it's alway possible that you dont understand what I try to say, simply besause I dont speak english very well. I'm learning a lot here!

2- Nuendo soundcards? here my friend. www.steinberg.net take look, it worth it. You know RME? then you'll see whats going on.
The one I own is Nuendo Audiolink 96 Multiset. Yes, RME is making these cards. It's even still wrote RME on it.

3-I'm not bashing the Delta's soundcard at all. I'm not bashing Midiman. I also just buy a Midiman MobilePRE, to be able to record my ideas/work with my laptop when I'm not home.

4-Did you never notice that, 2-3 years ago, Midiman Delta users were drivers beta testers? A damn new driver was out about each 2 weeks...If you didnt, I can send you a forum link (if I can find it:|)where you'll certainely notice that many..I mean M-A-N-Y 1010 owners were pissed off about this.

5-Standard PC, instaed of ACPI will not put 874 units on the same IRQ. Good idea to get your soundcard alone on its own, dont you think? ...less important than it was with recent soundcards.

Is this one more clear? If you dont understand something in this post, just tell me, I can try it again!

 

[brzilian]

OK,
1- sounds like you dont know that it's alway possible that you dont understand what I try to say, simply besause I dont speak english very well. I'm learning a lot here!

2- Nuendo soundcards? here my friend. www.steinberg.net take look, it worth it. You know RME? then you'll see whats going on.
The one I own is Nuendo Audiolink 96 Multiset. Yes, RME is making these cards. It's even still wrote RME on it.

3-I'm not bashing the Delta's soundcard at all. I'm not bashing Midiman. I also just buy a Midiman MobilePRE, to be able to record my ideas/work with my laptop when I'm not home.

4-Did you never notice that, 2-3 years ago, Midiman Delta users were drivers beta testers? A damn new driver was out about each 2 weeks...If you didnt, I can send you a forum link (if I can find it:|)where you'll certainely notice that many..I mean M-A-N-Y 1010 owners were pissed off about this.

5-Standard PC, instaed of ACPI will not put 874 units on the same IRQ. Good idea to get your soundcard alone on its own, dont you think? ...less important than it was with recent soundcards.

Is this one more clear? If you dont understand something in this post, just tell me, I can try it again!

IRQ's don't mean much anymore as far as what your system tells you in the Hardware Manager window. Just because 2 devices use the same IRQ, doesn't mean you will run into conflicts. DMA supercedes IRQ or PIO and is a much more efficient way of transferring data which is how most devices communicate with a systems CPU/chipset nowadays.

 

[Kryogh]

Just because 2 devices use the same IRQ, doesn't mean you will run into conflicts

Standard PC, instaed of ACPI will not put 874 units on the same IRQ. Good idea to get your soundcard alone on its own, dont you think? ...less important than it was with recent soundcards.

Also less important with XP. Midiman seems to work better on their drivers now.

I went thru this. I dont really care if you didnt. In fact I'm glad for you!

I can assure you (I dont have care if you dont beleive me or not) that, as long as my Delta 1010 wasnt installed on a Standard PC OS, didnt have its own IRQ, I couldn't use it. Of course, it was due to the damn VIA chipset. But, once on its own IRQ, it worked.
(and the OS sticked to DirectX 7...this point, I still dunno why!)

if you have time too loose, try to find some 2 years old threads on this forum (yep! I found it!)
http://pub136.ezboard.com/fdelta1010forumdelta1010andwindows2000

You may see I'm not the only guy who had that kind of problems.

Ok, i still think that maybe I'm completely , totally 100% WRONG about all this. But a that time, I found a way to use my Delta.

Oh, BTW, have you ever own a 1010? When? On what kind of PC?

 

[Kryogh]

hehe, now it's funny but, I just went back to the link I just wrote is the precedent reply, it remember me the hell it was...

here are some peice of some replys..just to give an idea:

"But keep in mind that the drivers are NT 4.0 Drivers which "may also be tried with Windows 2000"!!!

"Talked to Tech-Support yesterday and (...) They also told me that you have to disable ACPI completely to make it work with the current drivers"

"To get the Delta 1010 drivers to work on NT 5.0 (Windows 2000) you have to disable the Multiprocessor ACPI and use Standard PC:"

this one is more recent
"Sounds like you should have sold your system rather than the 1010..."

I have no regrets dude, I sold the Delta. Was a good soundcard, but in year 2000...ouch. Many people had a lot of problems.

 

[brzilian]

Also less important with XP. Midiman seems to work better on their drivers now.

I went thru this. I dont really care if you didnt. In fact I'm glad for you!

I can assure you (I dont have care if you dont beleive me or not) that, as long as my Delta 1010 wasnt installed on a Standard PC OS, didnt have its own IRQ, I couldn't use it. Of course, it was due to the damn VIA chipset. But, once on its own IRQ, it worked.
(and the OS sticked to DirectX 7...this point, I still dunno why!)

if you have time too loose, try to find some 2 years old threads on this forum (yep! I found it!)
http://pub136.ezboard.com/fdelta1010forumdelta1010andwindows2000

You may see I'm not the only guy who had that kind of problems.

Ok, i still think that maybe I'm completely , totally 100% WRONG about all this. But a that time, I found a way to use my Delta.

Oh, BTW, have you ever own a 1010? When? On what kind of PC?

I've used my Audiophile 2496 (which uses the exact same drivers as the 1010) on 2 systems (PII-400 with 440BX-2 chipset and my newer P4-2.26 w/ 845EBT chipset). I have been using it for a year and a half and used both 2000 and XP. In addition these systems had multiple video cards/video capture cards and a SB Live! secondary soundcard as well.

IRQ sharing was inevitable and I never disabled ACPI.

No problems whatosever.

 

[Kryogh]

I understand now... you used the same drivers as the 1010, without a 1010. Means nothing to me dude, sorry.

Sometimes, I use different phones on the same phoneline and it works fine! Not the same thing about drivers/soundcards/computers/etc, you know it. Sorry again.

Ok well, I dont want to bother you anymore with this, so if you want this can be over. If you want to talk about something else, suggest! I'll be glad!

 

[brzilian]

I understand now... you used the same drivers as the 1010, without a 1010. Means nothing to me dude, sorry.

Sometimes, I use different phones on the same phoneline and it works fine! Not the same thing about drivers/soundcards/computers/etc, you know it. Sorry again.

Ok well, I dont want to bother you anymore with this, so if you want this can be over. If you want to talk about something else, suggest! I'll be glad!

You're a moron and don't seem to understand much about computer architecture.

 

[Kryogh]

You're a moron and don't seem to understand much about computer architecture.

Oh! your right! I dont work in a computer store or something that could make me a 'puter pro. I own a small recording studio. An I'm here to learn. Anyway...

Thx, you looks like a nice guy who like to share is knowledge, in a nice way!

You can still insult me if it makes you feel better!

 

[Kryogh]

I shouldn't write this because you will think I'm frustrated... you can think what you want if it makes you feel better.

have you read this:

"Talked to Tech-Support yesterday and (...) They also told me that you have to disable ACPI completely to make it work with the current drivers"

This is also what I did, and this is what solved my problems. You can call Midiman tech support Tomorow and tell them they dont know nothing about their soundcards.

I know you will reply... I shouldn't have wrote this message.
anyway..it's kind of distractive.

Fred

 

[christiaan]

You're a moron and don't seem to understand much about computer architecture.

Aah, good old Bzilian. Always good for a friendly word of advice.

 

[69ShadesofRed]

Interesting... seemed like this thread started like a legit post, and took a turn for the ugly real soon... confusing

Kryogh, I haven't had any experiences with the 1010, don't own one, but did have similar issues to yours w/other cards. The VIA chipsets are notorious for having all kinds of problems, audio being one of them... there is also problem when you're copying files from one drive to another... there is a chance for data corruption. Yeah, it's pretty screwed up. I had problems w/this chipset both with Standard PC and ACPI setups.

I have since switched motherboards, one with the nVidia chipset, and haven't had those kinds of problems since then. Oddly I tried Standard PC setup at first w/this motherboard, and I was actually having some audio glitches here and there. Reinstalling Windoze with ACPI worked better. But your milage may vary. I say try ACPI first, and change to Standard PC only if you're having problems.

My 2 cents.

 

[Kryogh]

I say try ACPI first, and change to Standard PC only if you're having problems.

oh, thanx for your suggestion m8 but, this was 2-3 years ago, now my setup is..more than perfect to me!!