if you want to try out amp modeling, this is the time!

[antispatula]

Sweetwater is having a sale that is actually quite a big deal if you have been thinking of trying out amp modeling. Click here to see it.
Usually $300 (the gold edition being more like $500 I think), but since it's B stock it's only 99 bucks, and it comes with both the toneport interface and the software. I understand when people say nothing can replace a real tube amp, but for someone with both space and money restraints, I think this is definitely a great alternative. And I also think it's rediculous to say you CAN'T get a good tone out of modeling, whether the goal is emulation of a past amp or not.

Anywho, if anyone has been playing with the idea of dropping a few bucks on trying out modeling for size like I have, this is your chance to try it out for relatively cheap. Just thought I'd share,

Cheers!

 

[Codmate]

Sweetwater is having a sale that is actually quite a big deal if you have been thinking of trying out amp modeling. Click here to see it.
Usually $300 (the gold edition being more like $500 I think), but since it's B stock it's only 99 bucks, and it comes with both the toneport interface and the software. I understand when people say nothing can replace a real tube amp, but for someone with both space and money restraints, I think this is definitely a great alternative. And I also think it's rediculous to say you CAN'T get a good tone out of modeling, whether the goal is emulation of a past amp or not.

Anywho, if anyone has been playing with the idea of dropping a few bucks on trying out modeling for size like I have, this is your chance to try it out for relatively cheap. Just thought I'd share,

Cheers!

Sorry - can't resist:
http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

Plus... you may be able to get a tone you're happy with from a modeller - but will it be as responsive to your playing as a real valve (or even a good solid state) amp?
I've certainly never found any modelling system that breaks up naturally when I play hard and then cleans up nicely when I back off.

 

[boingoman]

Plus... you may be able to get a tone you're happy with from a modeller - but will it be as responsive to your playing as a real valve (or even a good solid state) amp?
I've certainly never found any modelling system that breaks up naturally when I play hard and then cleans up nicely when I back off.

What does any of that have to do with this thread?

 

[antispatula]

Sorry - can't resist:
http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/.

at least I'm not alone in my error,
if a whole website is dedicated to my error

Plus... you may be able to get a tone you're happy with from a modeller - but will it be as responsive to your playing as a real valve (or even a good solid state) amp?
I've certainly never found any modelling system that breaks up naturally when I play hard and then cleans up nicely when I back off.

I see your point, but that's like saying that you may be able to get a good sound out of your home studio, but it won't compare with a multi-million dollar commercial complex in LA with seasoned professionals at the mixing boards. Of course it won't, but recording yourself is the next best thing to droping a crapload of money on something you don't have It's not as if people that get into modelling do it because they think it's BETTER than tube amps, it's because of very common constraints like money and space.

Plus, even if I did have enough for a tube amp, I would be stuck with just that amp. A few years ago I had an original silverfaced Fender Twin Reverb. The clean channel was the most brilliant thing I'd ever heard, but for the life of me I couldn't get the tone I was looking for, even with a tube screamer and lots of other effects, so I sold it, used my crappy 10 dollar "starter kit" amp for the tone I was looking for and was happy.

 

[mikeh]

First - thanks for sharing the info about the blow prices - hopefully all of us on this site try to make each other aware of good deals, as well as sharing knowledge and opinions.

I happen to be a person who does not hate modeling. I've owned several hardware modeling units (POD, J-Station & V-Amp) as well as owning several amps/combos.

As you indicate someone with limited cash, limited space or specific volume concerns can get very decent tone from amp sims. Like any piece of gear - you have to learn how to use it.

Can anything accurately simulate a costly tube amp - probably not. Can a guitarist/home recorder get a very useful tone from an amp sim - probably.

Many of my recordings may have mic'd amp/speaker sounds or sim sounds - and often the choice is dictated by the time of day I recorded vs. an opinion that one sound was superior to another.

 

[antispatula]

good post, thanks, I agree with everything you say.
Another thing to consider when getting into modeling is
are you even trying to emulate real tube amps?
I don't even play much electric guitar, I'm much more of a
piano/acoustic guitar player, and am not trying to emulate any specific
amp, just interested in getting a decent tone whenever I want to pick up my electric (which is often, but not nearly as often as a keyboard or acoustic)
For someone like me who isn't exclusively a "guitar player" per say, it's a great option. I can see why people who play electric guitar every day and are constantly trying to get the absolute best tone possible think modeling is a little iffy.

 

[37point5]

Kick ass! Thanks so much for posting this. I've been looking at this bundle for a month now, and it's been out of my price range. Even on Ebay this goes for way too much.

The great thing about this particular bundle is that you can monitor the amp models with zero latency. The TonePort DI box somehow takes care of the processing. So when you're recording, you can monitor the distortion/echo/etc in order to get the "feel" of the performance right, but you can also record the dry signal. Then you can go back later and use either the Gearbox plugin, or Amplitube, or convolution models, or whatever, and radically change the sound to your liking as the mix requires. For you purists, with the proper hardware you can even send it back out to a tube amp and reamp it!

 

[drummerboy_04AP]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Line-6-?sku=706520

is it the same thing as that? If so, thats a deal and a half!

 

[antispatula]

yes,
it is usually 300 bucks!

 

[drummerboy_04AP]

wow, I think Im gonna pick one up... thats such a deal!

I think itd be cool for bass, I struggle getting a bass sound I like. Also a lot cheaper than an amp and pedals, and thats all I use guitar for is recording mainly...

 

[37point5]

Just found the Gold bundle for only $50 more!!!!!!!

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-LIN-GBGOLD.html

 

[kojdogg]

yeah i got the gold despite my no more line 6 pledge of not too long ago. i'm trying to build small selection of lo watt tube amps, but the fact that you can send a dry signal to record and monitor with the modelling could be very useful for reamping. i'll try it with the built in di and get a better one if need be.
plus the effects and amp models are useful for other things and often sound better on things like vocals, drums, bass and keys than they do on guitar.
i've seen these listed as an eol (end of life) deal, so it's probably limited to stock on hand for most places.

 

[antispatula]

Just found the Gold bundle for only $50 more!!!!!!!

http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-LIN-GBGOLD.html

no wonder it's out of stock!
it doesn't state that it is b stock or refurbished though, that kind of makes it a little sketch. I thought retailers, by law, are not allowed to advertise a product bellow a certain price (hence the "too low to list, call us for price!" deals) and 150 bucks seems pretty increadible seeing it is usually $500!

 

[ggunn]

no wonder it's out of stock!
it doesn't state that it is b stock or refurbished though, that kind of makes it a little sketch. I thought retailers, by law, are not allowed to advertise a product bellow a certain price (hence the "too low to list, call us for price!" deals) and 150 bucks seems pretty increadible seeing it is usually $500!

It's not by law, it's decreed by the manufacturer, I'm pretty sure.

 

[37point5]

Wow, I must have bought one of the last they had. At that price, I'm not surprised they went so quickly.

 

[JPXTom]

Hey...musician's friend stupid deal of the day is this bundle for 99 bucks.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid

 

[mjbphotos]

I got the gearbox software as a free upgrade after getting my Line 6 Guitarport. I love the sounds of it!

 

[six]

it's rediculous to write "per say". haha, couldn't resist.

 

[antichef]

but the fact that you can send a dry signal to record and monitor with the modelling could be very useful for reamping.

yes - I've been doing that with my tonelab se -- mac to motu traveler out into effect return of the tonelab, then dry to "amp" output to amp - works (after you get all the levels set right)!

 

[antispatula]

it's rediculous to write "per say". haha, couldn't resist.

I'll admit, I felt a little uncomfortable typing it out. Saying it outloud, I wouldn't think twice about it, but typing it truly feels strange.