B.SABBATH
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good song.. nice sounding toms but the drums sound pretty weak during the verses.. nice vocal.. the vocal sound is good too..
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powderfinger
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i really like the speedy vocal section..........nice guitar tones......the drums could have a little more presense for a song like this, but i don't think they're bad as is...........the tune has a nice groove
jake-owa
Banned
Ahhh geezus...
I tried my darndest to get the drums loud enough but it's like at the clipping limit there. Should I turn everything else down?
I really want to make this thing as solid as possible but it's pretty close now according to my feeble ears.
I'm tired of this song now...it may be a few months before i can work on it again. Time will put this all in perspective.
Thanks for the criticism fellas.
I tried my darndest to get the drums loud enough but it's like at the clipping limit there. Should I turn everything else down?
I really want to make this thing as solid as possible but it's pretty close now according to my feeble ears.
I'm tired of this song now...it may be a few months before i can work on it again. Time will put this all in perspective.
Thanks for the criticism fellas.
fenderlikingood
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Hey Jake, I didn't have any comment's the first time( i was just into the tune!) still am!! i 've had about 20 listen's now, i agree with sab, 100%. Drum's need more juice! It's a real git and vox driven mix, i think more presence on the kit would make this puppy shine!!!!!!!! Yeah..try to bring the other part's down a tad and bring up the drum's to match, but don't bury the vox! (please)
try the to bring down the git's in conjunction with bringing up the drum's and leave the vox level.............Or don't listen to a word i am saying!!!!!!! ...i have to tell you i am listening on comp monitor's...but they are decent. I was worried to say something in my first post about the drum's for this very reason, but sam verified it! and after 20 listen's and various comparison's to different tune's........BRING EM UP!!!! I would love to have a "drum's up version".......so if you remix, post it please!
Thank's, jake!!!!.great tune!
peace
Rick
try the to bring down the git's in conjunction with bringing up the drum's and leave the vox level.............Or don't listen to a word i am saying!!!!!!! ...i have to tell you i am listening on comp monitor's...but they are decent. I was worried to say something in my first post about the drum's for this very reason, but sam verified it! and after 20 listen's and various comparison's to different tune's........BRING EM UP!!!! I would love to have a "drum's up version".......so if you remix, post it please!Thank's, jake!!!!.great tune!
peace
Rick
jake-owa
Banned
More and more I am getting the impression that the guitars are too loud. I guess I'll back them off and eq the drums a bit and re post it.
Thanks for the encouragement Fender!
Thanks for the encouragement Fender!
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sjcrts
New member
I'm a noob but I'll give my 2 cents anyway.....
I like the tune. Very cool.
I think over all the mix is good, but the drums bother me a bit. The toms come through the mix well but the beats in the verses are a bit to weak. I hate that word weak, but I just think they need to come through the mix with a bit more power. The cymbols sound a bit outside the mix to me. They seem to come through louder than the rest of the drums in the spots you have crashes (mainly around the 2:00 mark and the very end).
Your vocal sound...excellent! I really like your voice and the sound you have is great.
I also like the guitars. I think they sit nicely in the mix and the sound is very good.
drums aside, this is the kind of tune/mix I hear that makes me want to pull my guitar out and start recording. I wish I could do that 1/2 as well as you've done here.
Another song for my play list of NWR artists.
~scott
I like the tune. Very cool.
I think over all the mix is good, but the drums bother me a bit. The toms come through the mix well but the beats in the verses are a bit to weak. I hate that word weak, but I just think they need to come through the mix with a bit more power. The cymbols sound a bit outside the mix to me. They seem to come through louder than the rest of the drums in the spots you have crashes (mainly around the 2:00 mark and the very end).
Your vocal sound...excellent! I really like your voice and the sound you have is great.
I also like the guitars. I think they sit nicely in the mix and the sound is very good.
drums aside, this is the kind of tune/mix I hear that makes me want to pull my guitar out and start recording. I wish I could do that 1/2 as well as you've done here.
Another song for my play list of NWR artists.
~scott
Guernica
Active member
hey...this is cool.
Cool tune.....feels kinda queens of the stone age'ish. I particularly like the bass and vocals in this. The bass tone fits "perfectly" in its own space...... a perfect bass tone for this tune. The vocs kick ass. Your doubles thicken nicely..... big fat fuckers........I likey! cool stuff jake
Cool tune.....feels kinda queens of the stone age'ish. I particularly like the bass and vocals in this. The bass tone fits "perfectly" in its own space...... a perfect bass tone for this tune. The vocs kick ass. Your doubles thicken nicely..... big fat fuckers........I likey! cool stuff jake
jake-owa
Banned
Hey thanks Guernica! That means a lot coming from you.
And sjcrts, noob nothing, that was some great listening and advice there. In fact, thanks to you and other picky fuggers here (whom I appreciate greatly) I have remixed this song yet again today. I think you will be happy with this one.
Remix: "A Wanderer final" on the same page at nowhere.
www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=2012/singles
Please tell me I'm done.....well, if I am.
Don't let me off the hook guys, keep the pressure on. Everyone is really helping my mix here and I really would like to thank each and every little gripe.
I love you guys, Jake
And sjcrts, noob nothing, that was some great listening and advice there. In fact, thanks to you and other picky fuggers here (whom I appreciate greatly) I have remixed this song yet again today. I think you will be happy with this one.
Remix: "A Wanderer final" on the same page at nowhere.
www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=2012/singles
Please tell me I'm done.....well, if I am.
Don't let me off the hook guys, keep the pressure on. Everyone is really helping my mix here and I really would like to thank each and every little gripe.
I love you guys, Jake
mbuster
New member
This is the first one of your songs I've ever listened to. I was just doing a lo-fi stream, but I'm going to download it because it rocks. This reminds me of something Helmet would have played. That's a compliment. Cool vox.
Guernica
Active member
.......man this was nagging at me. ......It reminded of someone bigtime, and i couldnt for the life of me think of who it was......
.........Helmet!
....remember them .....early 90's ish.... really cool band. ....anyways, I thought i would pass that on.
.........Helmet!
....remember them .....early 90's ish.... really cool band. ....anyways, I thought i would pass that on.
jake-owa
Banned
I've never heard their stuff...maybe I'll check it out.
I really liked the QOTSA comment...although believe it or not I never heard any of their music until two weeks ago. I gotta say they kick some serious ass!
I really liked the QOTSA comment...although believe it or not I never heard any of their music until two weeks ago. I gotta say they kick some serious ass!
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shredfit
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The Mix sound really Good!
Here is what I would try:
Do a stereo pan on the word yeah... 40% left than 40% right... I think it would give it more depth...not too much panning or it will lose then effect.
Then try a lo-fi vocal sound on the answering vocal after the yeah..only on a few of them... perhaps even some tube overdrive???
Just a few ideas
The "Profound" question of the day, (Is a mix EVER really finished???) he he
Shred
Here is what I would try:
Do a stereo pan on the word yeah... 40% left than 40% right... I think it would give it more depth...not too much panning or it will lose then effect.
Then try a lo-fi vocal sound on the answering vocal after the yeah..only on a few of them... perhaps even some tube overdrive???
Just a few ideas
The "Profound" question of the day, (Is a mix EVER really finished???) he he
Shred
jake-owa
Banned
Was that revenge?
BTW the vox are 30% left and right and i don't feel the need to do any lo-fi-ication , thanks anyhow.
Please feel free to get pissy at me for being honest, I like that too.
This mix IS finished.
BTW the vox are 30% left and right and i don't feel the need to do any lo-fi-ication , thanks anyhow.
Please feel free to get pissy at me for being honest, I like that too.
This mix IS finished.
jake-owa
Banned
i just listened on lo-fi to see what the dail up people hear and I have ony one thing to say: Ouch!
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shredfit
New member
That was not revenge!
The panning I was refering to would be on just the word... Yeah
It was just some constructive help... I like the tune
I also think a lo-fi vocal on one word could sound cool...with respect to the song... that is all!
Shred
The panning I was refering to would be on just the word... Yeah
It was just some constructive help... I like the tune
I also think a lo-fi vocal on one word could sound cool...with respect to the song... that is all!
Shred
jake-owa
Banned
Then I'm sorry, I get a lot of silly 'helpful criticism' from people I give less than glowing critiques to.
I am pretty happy with the mix as of now though, thanks.
I am pretty happy with the mix as of now though, thanks.
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shredfit
New member
It was not intended to be "silly"
What I find silly is people that don't write songs with a hook... complain about others that have a repetitive hook... it is just a different school of thought...
I appreciate both
Shred
What I find silly is people that don't write songs with a hook... complain about others that have a repetitive hook... it is just a different school of thought...
I appreciate both
Shred
jake-owa
Banned
Oh...so it was revenge.shredfit said:
Excessive repetition is lame in music...i don't want to hear the inane chorus over and over, it didn't even make any sense. I never appreciate that. Get over it! I tell it like I hear it. And fuck your hook right in the ear.
End of story.
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shredfit
New member
Wow! your touchy.
A hook = commercial success
No hook = at best, limited commercial success
Using your banal reasoning, "Walk this way, Talk this way.... Walk this way Talk this way........etc sucks, (certainly not the most esoteric lyical content) yet it is still played on the radio...which I think is great...
On the other hand "Turn the Page, by Segar" shows no lyrical hook at all but still is played on the radio...which again I think it great...
Your music doesn't have strong hooks... perhaps because you don't like hooks...
Again using your banal reasoning one (could) conclude: Music without a hook is lame....
but of course, I strongly disagree
Shred
A hook = commercial success
No hook = at best, limited commercial success
Using your banal reasoning, "Walk this way, Talk this way.... Walk this way Talk this way........etc sucks, (certainly not the most esoteric lyical content) yet it is still played on the radio...which I think is great...
On the other hand "Turn the Page, by Segar" shows no lyrical hook at all but still is played on the radio...which again I think it great...
Your music doesn't have strong hooks... perhaps because you don't like hooks...
Again using your banal reasoning one (could) conclude: Music without a hook is lame....
but of course, I strongly disagree
Shred
Pedullist
Stop it, I can't breathe
Sounds great, Jake! Good vocals! Indeed, pretty Queens Of The Stone Age-esque. Drums sound even better than QOTSA's latest.
Personally I'd prefer more dirt, and more reverb, a more live sound...especially on the drums. But if you like to keep it like this, I don't mind. I can get used to it, I guess....
Personally I'd prefer more dirt, and more reverb, a more live sound...especially on the drums. But if you like to keep it like this, I don't mind. I can get used to it, I guess....
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