I think I like this one . . .

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Alright, before we go any further, remember my disclaimer: I know the vocals are quiet. I fought for bringing them up, but the band wanted them down, so I lose.

That's about the only bad news I can think of.

I'm actually quite happy with how this one came out -- on many different levels. Have a listen to song 3 and let me know if you agree, or if you think I'm just losing it :D . . .

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists...d=1298&alid=475

song 3
 
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Yeah, it's a good song. The one thing I'd like with this is to be able to hear the vocals more clearly. I don't think it's a matter of simply turning the vox up 1 dB. It's something else, or more than that. I'm not smart enough to know what. Maybe turn the vox up 1 dB and put less reverb on it?
 
Not Bad

The composition is cool. I kept trying to figure out what the time signature was, but I am now convinced that it changes several times throughout the song (some 6 some 4 and even a minute of 7?)- which is neat- I love odd time stuff. Then again, maybe they just fooled me by doing variations in 4..... hmmmmm :confused:

The vox only seem too quiet in the beginning, to me. Toward the middle when they get a little harder they seem like they are in the mix again. It's too bad they wanted the vocals down so much.

The instrument tracks sound really clean and well balanced. Good work! :cool:
 
Hey Chess,
Very nice recording on the instruments.... really clean and present. The guits are smokin'. Yeah, it is too bad that they want the vocs so far in the back. I dont mind the effects.... theyre kinda vibe'ish and that works for me, but with the vocs so far in the back it almost sounds like these are bg or supporting vocs and the lead voc track was left out.
..I really like the writing style of these guys. I hear a little sonic youth in there and that is always a good thing.
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***** for the recording. ...and another 5 for trying to talk these damn kids nowadays into doing the right thing:D
 
Wow, I honestly haven't figured out a single word yet....wait,..he said haven't got a clue.

Nice job. I like the instruments. Good mix.

Joe
 
Re: Not Bad

coloradojay said:
I kept trying to figure out what the time signature was, but I am now convinced that it changes several times throughout the song (some 6 some 4 and even a minute of 7?)- which is neat- I love odd time stuff. Then again, maybe they just fooled me by doing variations in 4..... hmmmmm :confused:
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Yea, they confused the hell out of me when we were doing punch ins. They kept saying things like "Let's go back to the second group of 7's" and things like that, so I am assuming you're right about the 7 thing. :D

I just had a good laugh when they'd say that kind of stuff. I mean, I really like bands like Yes and all, but I'm still a 4/4 guy at heart.

Band: "Take us back to just before the second group of 7s."

Chess: "Do you mean the second group of sevens or the seventh group of thirds?"

Band: (laughs)

Chess: "How about we just go back to the second group of 'bear-nair-nair, nair-nair, nair-nair' dealies?"

Band: "That's the part we were talking about."
 
That's funny stuff man.

Hey, I'm gonna have to get back to this. Having trouble getting nwr to react.
 
There we go. It just needed a little coffee.

OK, I know they want the vocals down, but it's to the point where I almost can't even make out the melody, let alone the words. And it's a shame, because they sound well recorded and the voice seems like it might be pretty damn good.

Very cool sounds in general. Did you do the tracking? It sounds nice and clean...good job.

Is it just me, or does the mix lean noticably to the left. I realize that the main rhythm guitar is panned left, but the lead vocal seems to be panned a little left as well. A balance doesn't seem to be struck until 1:51 when the other guitar comes in from the right.

I have no EQ complaints...sounds great.

I suspect that if the vocal was more front and center, the issues I have with the stereo balance might cease. Maybe you could posta mix for us with the vocals up front?

Anyway, nice job for real. Clean and smooth!
 
Good mix, too much verb on vox

Hey the music sounds good for this style mix wise. but i think that the vocals are buried in too much verb as was said before. I think they would be almost good if they weren't so wet...at the volume they are at. And i know this isn't a mix complaint, but the singer is off key in a few spots, but you may not want to mention that...The overall mix sounds good though.
 
Re: Good mix, too much verb on vox

Analytical Man said:
And i know this isn't a mix complaint, but the singer is off key in a few spots, but you may not want to mention that...The overall mix sounds good though.
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I think that's why it is mixed as it is. He probably doesn't need to mention it. But based on my own struggle, I think he needs to get his vocal track in his face...face his demons, if you will.
 
SLuiCe, you're so right...can't help it but I always seem to agree with you :)
 
A few voice lessons wouldn't hurt. :D

I didn't say that.

I'll tell the band that like 10 guys at homerecording.com all told me the vocals need to come up (and less verb).

Might give me some added ammunition.

I'm still happy as all hell over how it all came out. What really drives the song to me are the guitars during the faster, heavier parts, and those parts kinda' get my adrenalyn kicking.

I give myself at least a 4 since everything that was actually within my control wound up sounding better, probably, than anything I've ever tracked, mixed, and/or produced.
 
I liked it very well. Clarity you get is a turn on for me. Someone said "sonic youth", hehe I like that, the variation in 4/4 were kinda cool too. They will get really more adventurous and tight with time..
 
Generally the recording is excellent. I really like the drum sound (and the drumming in general is really cool). Guitar tone and sound is spot on; nice and crunchy whilst avoiding too much distortion, but still bright and punchy. The only thing on the guitar that slightly bugged me was that the two guitars seem to be panned almost hard left and right, giving it an old Beatles-style feel. I think some panning works, as it helps separate the sounds, but a little more stereo width on each guitar would help them blend together without sounding homogenised.

I liked the tone of the vocals, but agree they could be a little more prominent in the mix. I'm not sure if it's just a question of volume, it's more something to do with EQ or reverb, but aren't quite sure.

Otherwise, though, very professional sounding and I like the music too. Nice work :)
 
OK. . . I have been away from the clinic for a few days. I listened to song 3.

The drums could come up overall I think. Mostly just the snare could come up, but I would also like cymbals to come up a bit and the toms could too. They will help give more energy to the song. I think on this song you should mix the drums just a tad higher than you can stand. They also will help to establish the groove. Right now I think you have the guitars trying to establish the groove.

The guitar is a bit loud on the left side I think. I am not listening on my monitors I could be wrong. Once again you have great guitar sounds! Maybe just a bit much this time.

On second listen, turn the whole drum kit up a bit. At 3:25 the drums could come up for sure. Also is the bass drum ringing or do you have reverb on it? I hear a bit of resonance on it. At 2:32 something is screwy with the way he goes to the ride then crashes like two bars later. The ride sounded energetic then he loses it. At 3:48 there is a stray ride hit on an upbeat. Then at 3:53 there are two ride hits that are on downbeats that sound odd, after that he goes to crashes.

Also tell this guy his voice is fine and to quit bieng a pussy and let people hear his ass!!!!! Actually show him this post. Tell him I think he has great vocals on all 3 songs I have heard.

Clever intro. 6/8 then 7/8 then 8/8 (4/4) Cool use of 7/8. It grooves pretty nicely. At 1:17 I could totally hear a big synth string part or maybe an ascending guitar that is just sustaining notes. I actually could hear a big production being made of this song. Think, A Perfect Circle or something on that vien. 2:16 definately needs another guitar part or another part in general, something.

Good Job!! Good Song!!
Beez
 
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