I probably should be shot for asking this...

[MonkeyShock]

but, ok, I'm running guitar & bass through a small mixer (Eurorack UB802) into the Audiophile 2496. I can monitor my live playing through headphones from the mixer but the already recorded tracks come out of the pc speakers. How do I route things so that I can hear both at once while I record? Do I come back to the mixer from the soundcard outputs? Thanks in advance people.

 

[Massive Master]

The settings would probably be in your recording software.

There may be latency issues, and that may take some getting used to. But again, the software should have some way of minimizing that anyway.

John Scrip - www.massivemastering.com

 

[AlChuck]

The Delta-series cards can route the input of the card back to the output. (This is what all those audio interfaces that offer "zero-latency" monitoring do.) Look in the M Audio Control Panel applet and RTFM.

The latency issues occur if you monitor the audio after it's digitized (and after passing through the recording software and being processed by any software effects you might be using) as it's being recorded. This will be significant if you are using a computer whose OS doesn't support the latest low-latency drivers. Depending on what software you are using, these would be ASIO or WDM drivers.

 

[MonkeyShock]

Yes, I understand...I think. All the talk about latency makes sense to me now. Thank you very much. My software does support ASIO.
Thanks guys!

 

[distortedrumble]

YOU'VE WON A PRIZE!

WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR HIM JOHNNY!? Well monkey shock, you've won another neat toy that will help with hearing both your main computer mix and your UB802 mix. its called the Behringer HA 4700 headphone mixer!! (crowd ooohs and aaahs and claps) with this lovely piece of equipment you can plug your mixer's control room out to the main input on headphone mixer AND you can run a splitter from your audiophile to send the signal to your speakers and to the headphone mixer also!



I have the same setup and i found that using the headphone mixer is much better due to the fact of volume control over the different signals...i can control the mixer volume from the mixer and the headphone amp and the computer signal has a volume control on the headphone amp also.

 

[MonkeyShock]

........

Thanks Johnny....but I'd like to trade it all for what's behind door number 3!........HEE-HAW!....Awwwww.@#$$^#@

Distortedrumble,.... excellent ! a friend was just suggesting something along these lines, but it's good to hear from someone who's using the same set-up. Guess what I'm getting next friday? Thanks for the great tip-just what I was looking for...jeez,this place's got everything! See Ya! One more thing: By "splitter", you mean like a Y-cord?
Thank You.

 

[noisedude]

door 3 you say...........

that's right, you've won an all-expenses paid phonic mixer and a pair of cowbells!

didn't he do well?

 

[MonkeyShock]

Guess the price,win a prize?

Thanks , hope Guitar Center has these.

 

[MonkeyShock]

Noisedude-distortedrumble

After cheking out the Behringer site I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.
Ok, I'm going from mix/ctrl.rm out to headphone mixer main in...in the rear? So I'll need two 1/4 cables(R&L).
Split from soundcard to Aux in on one of 4 channels of headphone amp w/headphones comingout of that channel-front of hphone mixer. I'm still using mixer main out to soundcard in right?
If this is correct so far, can you describe your splitter. All the Behringer stuff is 1/4 and soundcard and speakers are rca, so I need something that goes rca L&R to another rca L&R as well as 1/4 L&R right?..........Who's on first! I'm having a hard time thinking what this splitter looks like...I hate multiple trips to radio shack.
Also, did you guys order from Behringer, or does guit-center carry these? Whew!... Thanks for any reply.

 

[noisedude]

errrrrrr.......i've had exams today so my brain is fried. but i'll tell you what i think is right.

- main outs from your mixer --> into soundcard ins.
- my driver for my delta 44 has a 'patchbay router' bit. i can choose what comes out of the outs. basically you want to choose the Wave Outs that your recording software is sending to.
- take the outs from the soundcard to your headphone mixer. then plug your headphones in.

this is essentially my setup although i have a 4-buss mixer so i don't need a headphone amp right now.

if you wish to also monitor your playing direct then you may also plug that into the headphone amp. it depends if you have a latency thing going on. if i was less tired i'd be able to say. i have no latency to speak of with my setup and there are many disadvantages to listening to your playing aside from the mix.

 

[Starcat]

MonkeyShock - not sure if this will help, but I have a similar set-up, 'cept I use a Behringer UB1202 and an M-Audio Audiophile USB. Here are my connections:

- Guitar/Bass/Mic into Behringer input jack
- Behringer main out to Audiophile input (1/4" to 1/4")
- M-Audio out to Tape IN jacks on the Behringer (RCA-to-RCA)
- Behringer Tape Out to powered monitors (RCA-to-RCA)
- Plug headphones into Behringer headphone jack

The UB1202 has a "tape to mix" button. When I want to hear all of the output from the M-Audio (i.e., both what 's already recording and what I'm playing), I press this in. If I want to hear only what I'm playing, I lplug the headphones directly into the M-Audio instead of the Behringer.

Seems to work for me. Hope this may help in some way.

 

[noisedude]

this is a perfectly good way of doing it.

you don't need to monitor your playing direct very often (unless you're actually in the process of working out sounds/mic positions etc) so i reckon this is decent enough. let us know if it works for you!