I need something for my guitar cab. Dynamic. Something like 421.

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I was looking at the md421 but thats a little pricey I was looking for something around 150-200 in the same class as that microphone.

Can anyone help me? I was thinking of just tracking Di and then renting some mics (i dont know where? some help would be nice) and tracking the guitar from my amp the right way.

Any ideas?
Thanks
 
Beyer M69 is a good choice. Older EV mics (RE-15, RE-18) can sound cool on cabs. On occasion, you can score a used Beyer ribbon (M160, M500) for around $200.
 
I recently bought a Cascade Fat Head ribbon mic for $150 new while my Royer R121 is in being re-ribboned. It still does not sound quite as good as the Royer on guitar cabs, but I have to say that I was pleasently surprised at how good it did sound considering the price. I definately prefer it over either an sm57 or a sennheiser 421. I bought it form Bayview Pro Audio for $170 with 2 day shipping. All in all I found that it was a good purchase. Just some food for thought:)
 
hmm maybe ribbon is the way to go over dyamic. Ive never tried a ribbon mic out soo id be anxious to hear. Though I wouldnt want to just go out and buy a mic ive never tried or heard before.
 
xstatic said:
I recently bought a Cascade Fat Head ribbon mic for $150 new while my Royer R121 is in being re-ribboned. It still does not sound quite as good as the Royer on guitar cabs, but I have to say that I was pleasently surprised at how good it did sound considering the price. I definately prefer it over either an sm57 or a sennheiser 421. I bought it form Bayview Pro Audio for $170 with 2 day shipping. All in all I found that it was a good purchase. Just some food for thought:)
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Clever idea. ;)

So, how would you describe the difference between your stock $170 Fathead and your Royer R121? The Fathead is close to half the price of the similar Nady version, AND it doesn't say Nady on the front. :cool:
 
sennheiser e906 maybe? I played a gig recently and my amp that is what my amp was mic'd with. Sounded good. I think they're were intentionally built for cabs as well
 
I recently got a E609 silver and it's Ok. Always used a 57 in the past. The 609 is a different flavor to pull out and try. My next move is going to be getting a dedicated recording amp. So I don't have to dial it in from scratch every time :o

F.S.
 
Freudian Slip said:
I recently got a E609 silver and it's Ok. Always used a 57 in the past. The 609 is a different flavor to pull out and try. My next move is going to be getting a dedicated recording amp. So I don't have to dial it in from scratch every time :o

F.S.
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I also have a 609....haven't played with it much yet though.... :o
 
It is hard for me to compare the Fat Head to the Royer R121 since I have not tried them side by side on more even circumstances. I do have initial impressions though. The Royer seemed to have a richer and more dimensional sound to it. The highs were a little more extended and the lows were a little more focused. The Fat Head however seemed to have a little better output. All in all though, I was pleasently surprised by the Fat Head and feel like it is a much better sounding mic for guitar cabs than a 421, 609, or a 57.
 
xstatic said:
It is hard for me to compare the Fat Head to the Royer R121 since I have not tried them side by side on more even circumstances. I do have initial impressions though. The Royer seemed to have a richer and more dimensional sound to it. The highs were a little more extended and the lows were a little more focused. The Fat Head however seemed to have a little better output. All in all though, I was pleasently surprised by the Fat Head and feel like it is a much better sounding mic for guitar cabs than a 421, 609, or a 57.
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If you got the standard Fat Head, the highs are probably the direct result of the crappy Chinese transformer. That said, looking at their PDFs of response, the stock transformer looks like it has better high end response than the Lundahl, which would be very surprising given what I've seen from transformers in other Chinese ribbons. Dunno.
 
DAS19, a ribbon is a great choice for a lot of styles but not all. Assuming you're not recording thrash or death I'd say go for it and try one. Ribbons resonate at very low frequencies most times so fast palm mute type playing can turn into a big blubbery blurry mess.

I also really really enjoy the E/V ND468 on guitar cabs. It is more extended than an SM57 but not as peaky sounding. It's also very proximity dependent, meaning the low end won't be overly exaggerated even at very close mic'ing distances. The 468 is highly directional also and will reject the room like crazy. That mic has nice bite and presence. I find it requires very little EQ most times in a mix.

Keep in mind most ribbon mics (except less than a handful of mics, mainly a couple of Beyer models) are figure 8 and are going to deliver a lot of the room sound. Be prepared to deal with the rear of the mic if you're in a small or less than stellar sounding space.

War
 
Realistically, the figure 8 pattern of a ribbon mic is virtually a non problem on guitar cabs. First, they are often reversed in polarity, second, the signal form most any guitar cab, especially when close mic'ed nullifys in real world interference from the room at the mic on a ribbon mic.
 
I just need it to brighten up my tracks im still going to use a 57 and a condensor but I want a third mic so I can then blend all those tracks together making a monster of a guitar track :D.

Ive read this is how a lot of professionals do it. Although you can obtain a good sound with just a 57 im trying to go over the top.
 
Ala the Warhead recommend above, I'd suggest that the best budget guitar cab sound you can get will be one of the entry level ribbons with a ND468 or an RE20. My cab has a Fathead and an RE20 planted in front of it! Great sound, and I can vouch for the ND468 as well. imo the RE20 and 468 are the two best dynamics around for a guitar cab.
 
DAS19 said:
I was looking at the md421 but thats a little pricey I was looking for something around 150-200 in the same class as that microphone.

Can anyone help me? I was thinking of just tracking Di and then renting some mics (i dont know where? some help would be nice) and tracking the guitar from my amp the right way.

Any ideas?
Thanks
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Go get a used 421. It is a tried and true studio staple, and you will find many other uses for it as well. It would be money well spent and a good investment into your studio.
 
get a e609, if you don't like it you can give it to me! i've been wanting one
 
jaybriggs84 said:
get a e609, if you don't like it you can give it to me! i've been wanting one
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I'd get something else, especially with a $150-$200 budget. To me the most exciting thing about that mic is you can dangle it in front of a cab on a mic cable. Most of the other mentioned in this thread sound nicer, and not just on guitars.
 
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