I Need Help!!!

[Kevin Allen]

i have searched for a certain acoustic sound and i have found it. i now own an Epiphone EJ-200...for anyone not familiar with this guitar, its a jumbo.
i LOVE the tone and playability of this guitar. its everything i wanted in an acoustic.

now then, i want to KEEP this sound. so i bought an Artec Internal Mic Pickup. now then i have the NATURAL sound of my guitar amplified. GREAT!!!

PROBLEM!!!! FEEDBACK!!! before i can get any volume to play live it starts to feedback. i can screw with the EQ some and get a little more volume but then i have lost the good sound.

i have no on-guitar EQ because i didnt want to cut no holes i just drilled for the endpin. i built a box that clips on my belt to control volume.

i need to know what to do to get more volume with less feedback? would a "feedback buster" work? or not enough to make it worth it?

i've also thought of building another box to clip on my belt and drilling a second endpin and adding an under-saddle pickup and run 2 jumper cords to my box with 3 volume knobs, 1 for each pickup to get a "blend" and then one master volume...

just wanted to get someone else's opinions on this...

thanks, Kevin

 

[drstawl]

I have that guitar (in blonde) and I wouldn't even mess with any pickups other than one that covers the sound hole.

That axe is LOUD all by its lonesome and has a thumping low end.

That's a recipe for feedback right there.

 

[Kevin Allen]

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drstawl,
the blonde one is the one i have....your right, it is loud and has a heck of a low end which is why i love it even more...have to watch who runs ur EQ cause everyone wants to add bass and u cant add bass to a bassy guitar.

just for around home or something, id rather not use a pickup, but i sure need one when playing live because the band i'm in wants to do some acoustic shows. i'm the lead guitarist so i gotta be heard.

i just dont want to lose the natural acoustics when amplified. this mic pickup works great but i cant get the volume.

Kevin

 

[drstawl]

You might try a cover on the sound hole and then just mic it and run that through the PA.

 

[muttley600]

i have searched for a certain acoustic sound and i have found it. i now own an Epiphone EJ-200...for anyone not familiar with this guitar, its a jumbo.
i LOVE the tone and playability of this guitar. its everything i wanted in an acoustic.

now then, i want to KEEP this sound. so i bought an Artec Internal Mic Pickup. now then i have the NATURAL sound of my guitar amplified. GREAT!!!

No you don't you have the sound of your guitar as it is inside the soundbox plus any filtering and dynamic added or subtracted by the mic in question and then by the PA or amp you are playing through.

PROBLEM!!!! FEEDBACK!!! before i can get any volume to play live it starts to feedback. i can screw with the EQ some and get a little more volume but then i have lost the good sound.

Welcome to world of Acoustic guitar and Live stage performance. The acoustic guitar is a quiet instrument.

i need to know what to do to get more volume with less feedback? would a "feedback buster" work? or not enough to make it worth it?

Maybe maybe not. The problem is that you will be playing in different environments and with different levels of amplification. The only way to stop feedback is to stop the body of the instrument vibrating as the sound pressure levels in the room increase. With an internal mic you are making it much harder as you are placing the mic in a resonant chamber that is being driven by the sound in the room. It is probably one of the worst places to mic an acoustic from.

've also thought of building another box to clip on my belt and drilling a second endpin and adding an under-saddle pickup and run 2 jumper cords to my box with 3 volume knobs, 1 for each pickup to get a "blend" and then one master volume...

I think adding other things into the mix is going to make life harder for you. I would cut your losses and do one of two things, but first realise you will NEVER get the natural sound of your guitar amplified on stage. First sell the internal mic on ebay and get a Fishman matrix, Rare Earth, Ibeam or other similar soundhole pickup as we've discussed in many threads in the past. Secound if the natural sound of your acoustic is your prime consideration get a decent mic and tell the rest of the guys to turn down.

Sorry to be mostly negative but you are after the holy grail of live acoustic guitar players. If I could make a pickup like you want I'd be one of the richest guys in the business.

 

[ocnor]

A Behringer Feedback Destroyer would work wonders on your feedback problem. It has 1/60th octave filters so it cuts only the offending frequencies without butchering your tone.