I hope no one minds me doing this....

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...happier than you.
Anyone who gives a crap (which probably isnt' a whole lot of you :p ), or has been around for a little while, might know that I'm making a CD for the youth band that I'm in. I recently had an all day, 8 song, marathon recording session, after which I was extremely bummed aboot how most of my tracks came out...

well... yesterday, I was able to smuggle a rough copy of one of the songs out of the studio.... OK.. so I didn't smuggle it.. my bro told me to take it home to analyze the drum tracks for any edits I may want to have them make... but little does he know (muuahahahahaa) that I have other plans for it... :cool:

I figured maybe a few people might be remotely interested in hearing this for a couple reasons... 1) I keep talking aboot how I'm "just a drummer"... and yet no one here has actually heard me play... (so hypothetically,.. I could be completely full of crap and making the whole thing up... :p )... and 2) because I'm so anal about everyone else's drum tracks.. I figure it's only fair that I provide them with something of mine to make fun of.. ;)

But... I have a few reservations, since this track doesn't really "belong" here... First off,... it's a rough draft... the guitars are scratch tracks.. the vocals are scratch tracks.. the only tracks in it that are "keepers" are the bass and drums.. but even those haven't even been EQ'ed or mixed properly yet.. The engineer messed around with some stuff,.. put some goofy effects on the guitar, and threw some samples in behind the snare (which I don't like, by the way. :p ) and what not.. but other than that... it's just a shell. So basically.. this may not be a very good representation, at all, of how the song will actually sound. Secondly,.. (and probably most importantly) it's not a "home" recording. I mean.. it wasn't done in a "pro" studio, by any means.. (it's basically a room behind the stage at my church) but nonetheless, I didn't have a thing to do with recording or mixing this. Finally,.. if my brother finds out that I'm posting unfinished scratch tracks to our CD on the internet,.. he'd prolly beat my skinny @ss all the way back to Canada... :D


so because of all that, I'm a little apprehensive aboot posting it...




but then I thought..






what do I care...? :D


anywhey... here's me, doing what I do every week,... (we actually played this song live for the first time tonight at youth)... this is one of the tracks that sucks a little less than some of the others,.. but don't expect anything amazing.. (or you will be sadly disappointed :p )

"Test Track" at WATYF's NWR site

Sorry if anyone thinks it's stupid that I posted this... you can just pretend it's not here.. :p


WATYF
 
you know I was listening for something wrong with the drums, :D but alas, the playing was good, but the bass drum was too low.. actually the snare was too low also imhop.. cool tune.. Nice little drum tasties with the high hat..
 
sounds like it could be a decent, finished production. I'd lose the drummer though....muhahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

amazing how churchs have studios nowadays... cool.

I do like the 'raw' snare sound.
 
B.SABBATH said:
actually the snare was too low
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I agree... they totally sanitized my snare.. When I play live, that thing is tuned up like a gun shot... but he took all the life oat of it in this mix.. :mad: I'm gonna complain aboot that next time I'm in the studio. :p

WATYF
 
I gotta ask...are you starting your own language, or sumpin?? what's this all aboot? I can't figure it oat.
 
just walk straight north long enough, and it'll come to you... :p


oh yeah.. and sam reminded me... suggestions for improving the actual sound/mix of the drums would be helpful... I want to write up a list of "demands" for the next time I'm in the studio... :p

WATYF
 
ok.......well you already know aboot the snare....I'd like a little more 'pop' to the kick drum......a bit more highs all the way aroung..........cymbals don't have much presence.......
Nice drummin' man............so when the hell you gonna get some recording gear so you can do some tracks for us?
 
Lt. Bob said:
so when the hell you gonna get some recording gear so you can do some tracks for us?
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just as soon as it starts raining money...

:D

WATYF
 
OK,so you're a good drummer.:eek: (or is that the young kid from church playing? :eek )j/k :)

I like the stuff you're doing in the pocket with the kick, the high-hat and snare....smooth......this will be a good tune once you get the vocals built up nice and thick and throw some verb on them..background vocals will sound great too.

The electric guitars will sound cool too once they are retracked-doubled....the guide guitar sounds like it could stay and just record another guitar to match it.......unless you're looking for more bite on the rhtyhm guitar then it would have to be retracked.

This is good man........as dry and stripped down as everything is you can still tell it's gonna be good.

Nice drumming all the way around.

negatives in this rough mix=Bass is almost non-existent.......you must be missing on speakers that are really bass responsive because it fooled you.LOL.......I can barely hear it.

The snare could use some volume.It has a nice thick pop to it but it needs to come up.

Who is writing the material for the CD?Good song structure and lyrics.
 
The writers for the CD are mostly my sis and the youth pastor (and then a couple by me). This one is by the youth pastor (music) and my sis (lyrics).

I also wondered what was up with the bass. Maybe he didn't think it was a necessary part of the mix, since this is just a copy for me... I dunno...

WATYF
 
These drums sound great to me, you got some chops fer sure. Just a little more kick, a bit dull, otherwise very cool. Sounds like nice clean micing. What's the setup?

Good job, can't wait to hear it all polished up :D
 
Hey man I'll give this a listen tonight after work...It's sumpin like 6 AM here and I'm aboot to leave for work. :D
 
nice playing

i really like it. the performance is in pocket and you don't overplay, yet you play interesting stuff when there's a spot for it. that stuff is very important imo. so performance wise, i wouldn't change a thing.

as for the mix, there's some work to do i think. snare and bass have been discussed as have the cymbals. i think the level of the cymbals is right for my ears but do need a little eq'ing to give them some more 'life'. the toms are very dry and dead. i'm not sure if it's the drums, the way they are tuned or what but they sound just real dead. no one mentioned that but it really stood out to me.
 
why is the guitar so loud during the loud parts?

it drowns everything else out.

the girl's voice is nice. the first note or so sounds like a pitch shifted cartoon voice but after that she sounds really good.

ok we can see why the rolling dingleberries wanted you to be their drummer. tasteful and dynamic. finesse.

:)
 
I was waitin' for someone to notice that... the toms are just dead. I wasn't happy with those at all...

So I guess the list is:

1) Take that stupid sample off the snare... EQ it with a little more "attack" and bring it up in the mix.

2) Give the bass drum some more punch and bring it up a little.

3) Give some more presense to the cymbals.

4) Do something with those nasty toms..

5) Get rid of that worthless drummer..


did I miss anything? :p

WATYF
 
SLuiCe said:
Hey man I'll give this a listen tonight after work...It's sumpin like 6 AM here and I'm aboot to leave for work. :D
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Hey.. just for you I put a china boy in there... see if you can find it.. :D

But unlike you,... I only use it once... ;) :cool: :p

WATYF
 
Watyf,

I REALLY liked this song! Didn't care for the effects on the guitar, but you said those were just scratch tracks. Excellent vocals. She is good. I'd love to hear her really cut loose on something that shows a little more emotion. But I thought her interpretation was very good for this piece. I'd really like to hear the finished song. I think it's a keeper.

O yeah, good job on the drums. Makes me wish I had REAL drums.



Twist
 
Sounds great, the only thing I would change besides what others have said is a dose of 'verb on the snare. I think the dryness of it is a bit distracting, and it makes it sound lo-fi compared to the rest of the music. I would love to hear the finished product.

Pete
 
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