I Got That Holy Ghost Power

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I went downtown today and recorded about 2 hours of stuff with my mic about 3 feet from me. It wasn't worth posting. The cars going by on the street sound like dragsters. Way too much backround noise. I am using a Core Sound Binaural microphone set . Any ideas besides cliping it on my harp rack? Walter

When I got home I plugged in the mic and recorded this in my dinning room. The reverb is natural. We have an old house from the 30's with hardwood floors and lathe walls. It makes pretty good reverb.


http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/discography.php?aid=3118
 
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This sounds too distant. I would try blending in a couple of close mics. Unless you're going for a genuine olden time effect.
 
Walter

I just caught the Holy Ghost..........
You are the most prolific artist I've ever encountered.

I like this, but I'm a fan, what can I say.
You were saying you tried the binaural mikes off the clip
but I thought they worked quite well on the clip.

You just got to keep up the experimentation like you are doing.
I think you will have to start thinking about using your minidisc to
record off the mixing board when the band gets back together.

Maybe hire a soundman and get an evening of some finely mixed SPONTOBEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The content is some of the finest I've heard, I think everybody will agree with that. It would just be nice to hear you a little finely recorded.

I'd kill to have you in my studio for a couple of days

;) :cool: ;)
 
Hevy: I would love to get into a studio again. Until then I am going to stick with the MD format. As far as getting a sound off the board, because I play so quiet, the only thing through the board is the vocal mic, which I also blow my harp through. I wonder is that would be better than my current approach? Like I have said, I am quite ignorant in this field. The studio scene is a mixed bag. I have been in the studio hundreds of times,and although all intentions were good, I only have a few sessions I am proud of. The soundman has to really be connected with your sound. That rarely happened with me. Maybe I will take a trip up your way next summer. Are dogs allowed to cross the border? One of my best friends, Evan Johns lives in Vancouver. If he lives that long, I would like to see him too. You are invited to our big BBQ August 24th. We get about 100 people and my band plays. It is a great time.


Jake-owa: I have a realistic pzm and a vintage electrovoice 666 mics. I haven't messed with them yet. Are they worth messing with? Thanks

Walter
 
I'm honoured

Yes, I got your invite, I won't make it this summer, but next is always a possibility. I will have to clear up a little LAW problem and I should be able to cross easy;)

I was reading in your yesterday post and I thought that the mini 4 track was an excellent suggestion.

One mike to vocal one for guitar one for harp and a spare!

Again, Thank You so much for the invite:cool: :D
 
Sounds really good Walter. I love those resonator guitars! Wish I had one.


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bd: Guitars just show up. I never have gone on a "mission" to find any of them. I believe that there are all kinds of guitars. I don't mean styles or brands by this statement. There are guitars that like to stay in cases most of the time, ones that need to play live, etc. The ones that find me are ones that need to be played live and spontaneously. They may have to sit in some guys closet for years, but once they realize there is better match for them out there, they find a way to your door, and at a price you can easily afford. Guitars have magical powers and will cause their owners to either flow with their personality, or move them on. Have faith, and I bet something good will come your way soon. Walter
 
smellyfuzz: Thanks!

Ijust posted another tune on the National - That's sleeping baby. I fell asleep for a second while playing. You can hear it on the first break. Walter
 
Some real nice playing. The recording kind of reminds me of something from the turn of the century without the scratchness. I could totally hear this as a 78 rpm.

I think the vocals could come up in the mix. It has a real nice live feel to it, though, and I'm not sure if bringing the vocals up would take away from that or not. They are just a little overpowered by the slide.

Really nice work overall and nice sound.

:D
 
boydrj: Thanks for the comparison to the 78 sound. I am doing all of this on a mini disc and core sound stealth mic. I have been moving it around, but that national is loud. That was played with fingers only. I am going to move the mic closer to my mouth. This technique I am messing with is similar to the old field recordings, in its simplicity, which is just my speed. Walter
 
Finding Americana

YOU ... are 'Americana' ...

I strongly reccommend checking out these miniature 4-Tracks and getting a 'headset' microphone. There really are some decent headset microphones.
 
studioviols: Do you have any particular reccomendations? Thanks Walter
 
Equiptment and Location

One rec for you on recording technique in the field. When you set-up, try to position yourself facing traffic of course, with a headset mic, the mic will of course be pointed away from traffic and the only reflections of the traffice noise will be off your soft facial tissue and that will reduce traffic noise dramitically.

Also, if you can, position yourself with soft things behind you. If there is a tree or two behind you in the city setting that is great to cut noise.

I'm going to do some research on these miniature 4-Tracks, I think you could do incredible field work with one of these and Hevy instntly sees the potential.

You could of course dump all 4 Tracks into the computer for long term storage and processing in SONAR, or N-Track, or Cool Edit Pro.

Also, as you 'collaborate' in the field, you can plug your friend's guitar in and a mic for them ... and two inputs for you and your guitar.

Keep an eye on this thread and we will take a serious look at these new miniature 4-Tracks.

ANY HELP out there from other geeks on this issue will be appreciated as we explore the concept of field recording and mixing for Walter.
 
studioviols: I looked briefly at the 4 track stuff at zsounds. Most use those smart media cards that the Zoom PS02 uses. I had one, and the cost is way too much for those cards, and they dont hold much music. The mini disc is cheap, and I wonder if any of these 4 track units use them, or something similar. Another concern would be battery power as an option. On those headset mics, do you have any reccomendations? Thanks for all your help. I would never be at this point if it weren't for people like you! Walter
 
Here are some links to look at, this unit uses AA batteries, and rechargeables are handy and affordable.

It also uses Compact Flash cards, a 64MB card can be gotten from http://www.crucial.com for as little as $19.99, free shipping on two of those babies ...

512MB $115.99
256MB $63.99
128MB $34.99
64MB $19.99

I'm looking at the 'Tascam Pocket Studio 5'

Although it records in MP3 format, you can record at the highest quality with the unit, and what you then dump into your computer would be very nice quality, almost indistinguishable from a WAV file, but there might be some argument on that. Here are some reviews of the unit.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov02/articles/pocketstudio.asp


http://www.music123.com/Item/?itemno=26888

http://homerecording.about.com/cs/productreviews/gr/tascamp5.htm

I do not know if the unit will use a flashcard that is bigger than 32MB, and that could be a problem ... but ... this product hearkens the arrival of similar products , keep your eyes peeled in the next year for competing products for you field work.

If you look at the 'Tascam Pocket Studio 5' at http://www.musiciansfriend.com you can see two links at the bottom of that product page to reviews on it.
 
Jake-owa: I have a realistic pzm and a vintage electrovoice 666 mics. I haven't messed with them yet. Are they worth messing with? Thanks

Walter
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Everything is worth messing with.
 
Another field recording solution

With a tiny-small portable 4-Channel mixer you could feed both the vocal and guitar mic's into the mixer ... and then pan the guitar hard right, pan the vocal hard left, so as the mini-disc wrote the file, you would be writing all vocal on the left side of the mini-disc's stereo channel, and all guitar on the right side of the mini-disc's stereo channel.

Then you could dump that to the computer and seperate the right and left channels leaving you with a track of mono guitar, and another track of mono vocal.
 
studioviols: Hi, and thanks for that idea. I could kick myself in the yu know what. I had a small Berringer(sp?) 4 or 6 channel mixer and sent it back because I never used it. It only ran on electric though. I will have to work on that one.

Austin is a great town. I don't live there anymore. You will have to come to California to jam! I love it here. The weather is perfect 10 months of the year. Highs in the upper 60's to low 80's, and every night you have to sleep with a blanket because the ocean fog rolls in and cools you down big time.

Austin is a great town, and I miss everything but the heat. Check my biography link on nowhereradio. It talks a lot about Austin. You can't go wrong moving there. I have been gone 7 years, and in music, that is a long time, but if you do move there, let me know and I can maybe give you some leads. Walter
 
I like the aura around this tune, I like the ambience. The house probably makes a lot of it but i really like it. Sounds to me like just a little closer micing on the vocal would clean it up and dominate over that room sound.
 
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