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Basically, I've been dabblin' (more than that now probably) with the old home recording for a while now. I have a Behringer Xenyx 802 going into a M-Audio 2496.

I feel like I've outgrown that now, so I'm either considering getting a Mackie 402 in place of the Behringer, or get a TASCAM US-1641 and replace the both of them.

Bare in mind that if I just got the Mackie and stuck with the 2496 I'd save £100...

Thoughts?

(other option is that M-Audio interface with the 8 pres in it.)
 
why do you think you have outgrown your present stuff?... say that and you might get more response.
 
Well,

That Behringer mixer is really noisy, and I tend to record guitars and bass direct, and the amount of hiss-y sound that happens when I shove it into any form of compressor or amp sim is annoying. (not to mention the pres seem to sound... lifeless on vocals or any other acoustic instrument.)

There's no real reason to change the 2496, I love that little thing. That's why I mentioned changing the mixer for something else and keeping it.

You could make the argument that it's my skill level at tracking that let's down my recording, which I thought too (and is probably still true to an extent), but the other day someone lent me a Soundcraft Compact 4 (which they don't make anymore, that's sad) and the sound is EXACTLY the improvement I was hoping for.

I'm hoping that they'll be able to sell it to me, because it does exactly what I need, but if that fails, it's still a choice between a Mackie 402 VLZ3 and that TASCAM (although judging from this Soundcraft I've tried I think the notepad 102 is a possibility)

Thanks for your feedback though. I hope that explains the situation well enough.
 

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JamesConnor said:
Well,

That Behringer mixer is really noisy, and I tend to record guitars and bass direct, and the amount of hiss-y sound that happens when I shove it into any form of compressor or amp sim is annoying.
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Only if you are plugging the guitar or bass into the line in jack, the line level is not designed for instrument level and you have to crank the gain up too high, if you used a DI plugged into an XLR they are not noisy.
You are right though that the gear you are looking at is better quality, it's just that you can get good results from the Xenyx 802 than you are now.

Alan.
 
yes..something like a sansamp di box might be all you need.. and those things are a real investment that would be usefull even if you upgraded your whole setup at a later date.
 
Ah, I'm not quite THAT much of a noob.
Yeah, even through a D.I, the Behringer still adds a hefty chunk of noise, although that could be the particular one I have.
It's not noticeable unless you use a compressor or an amp sim, and since I NEED the amp-sim for the guitar sounds, it becomes a problem.

Thank you for finding the compact 4, I clearly didn't look hard enough. Only thing I notice is that's an American supplier, I wonder if they ship to England, I'll have a look over the weekend. (Oh, and if I can get it sold to me by the people that lent me it, I'll probably get it cheaper)
 
JamesConnor said:
Ah, I'm not quite THAT much of a noob.
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Sorry, I was I suppose asking the question of if you were using a DI. I have a few Behringer small mixers that I use around the place, one of my bands has 4 of them on stage that we use for sub mixing and running in-ear monitor feeds. I also have on in a small road case for recording on location when doing spoken word (lecture) work, and this also gets used in my second band for a small vocal PA setup.

While they are not top of the line by any means and I do have much better consoles in the studio, I have never found them to be over noisy even when recording lectures with the gain up, in fact you can hear the auditorium air con louder than the mixer noise. That is why I wondered about why you were getting so much noise?

Cheers
alan.
 
Haha it's okay, I was only kidding.

See that's a thing, I've never heard of this particular model being overly noisy either, but when I for instance compress a bass guitar or run the guitar signal through an amp-sim, the noise becomes just too much to handle, especially on high-gain models. (I know I've mentioned this before.)

I guess I've always assumed that's the sound of ANY compact mixer, just on the way they're built... but after trying out that Soundcraft model, perhaps not.

It could always be that the particular one I have is faulty? I don't know.

(I apologize for how poorly this post was written out, it's fairly late.)
 
I have some Behringer stuff I use for gigs (keyboard amp and a pa) but using Behring in a studio recording chain... youza, grab your earplugs! :eek:

I have a few Summit things and I just love the sound. It just sounds right plus Mike the owner of the company answers the phone himself. If you don't need multi channels, maybe something like this would do you good:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Summit-Audio-2B...204?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b3e4e5ec
To say it would be a serious upgrade for you would be a understatement. The Summit stuff is full blown pro stuff, you'll never need better.
 
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