I ain't givin up!!!

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Could someone that uses the audiophile 2496 please tell me what their settings are in the control panel, and how they hooked up just maybe it could help me with my frustration.

When I record a track I get all the previous tracks recorded at the same time. Gotta be an answer. I can get a track to record without other tracks but then I can hear it as it goes in.

I'm going to keep posting till I get someone has pity on me or gets sick of my posts
 
I bought one today, installed it, and it works fine. Not sure what you mean about all other tracks recording at same time. Do you have some kind of loop going on there ?
What is your config. and what software are you recording with
 
Are you using a mixer for routing signals to and from the soundcard?
 
I'm recording with guitar tracks -- using a Behringer Mixer --
Eurorack MX 602A (The small Cheapie)

I mean that when I try to add a track to and existing project When I try to lay down a guitar part on an empty track All the other tracks are recorded also -- like I was bouncing them all to that track.

I'm going from the Main out to the in on the card then back to the mixer.

I've setup the control panel every way I can think of -- There got to be something I"m missing. (But man this thing does sound good)

I've been struggling with it for days --
Could it be the mixer? or I'm I just overlooking something obvious.

I can go back to the old sound card and it works fine but with it I was not going back to the mixer --

What are you using to go into the card and How is is hooked up?
 
im starting to feel pity.....sounds like you have "monitor mixer" selected as your input instead of one of the inputs HW 1/2 or S/PDIF, whatever is being used......when i can get the other computer fired up tomorrow ill let you know all the settings i use....

what software are you recording with again?...
 
Im Using Cakewalk Guitar tracks --- considering other sofware if that is the problem but I don't think it is.


I have tried all the settings in the control panel -- I don't have monitor mixer selected though. (But believe me I've tried it.)

I've reset the sofware a million times to every combination I can think of. All to no avail.

PITY IS A GOOD THING!!
Have some on a Louisiana boy stuck here in Connecticut.
I'm Desperate.
 
You are creating a loop with your mixer. Your prerecorded tracks are being routed via output of card to input of mixer, then output of mixer back to input of card. Do you have a monitor system or home stereo ? I use my mixer for input to card for mic. pre's or whatever and route my card outputs to a monitor system. If you have a home stereo, route your card outputs to an empty port {RCA} connects.
 
I would say stealthman has diagnosed your problem. By feeding your soundcard's playback to the mixer, you are then re-routing that signal back to the soundcard when you record. The signal from the Main Outs is going to give you everything that is plugged into the mixer (including, as you have found out, the playback of your earlier tracks).

What I would suggest is not to take your signal from the Main Outs of the mixer. Does the mixer have Direct Outs or Channel Inserts on the individual channels? If so, route those to your soundcard. This will allow you to record only the signal from the individual channel you are working with, while still allowing you to monitor the entire mix.
 
Yea! I'm Almost certain this is what the problem is. Talked to Cakewalk support, and they sent me some Delta Documents.
This has to be what it is. (Believe it or not do not have a home stereo system, son took it when he moved out!)

I'm really limited with this mixer the only way out is from the tape out (RCA) or the main out 1/4 in jacks.

Would another mixer be the best route to go -- or maybe a headphone amp and go from the card out to it? (Since for now I am monitoring with headphones -- monitors next investment)

Open for suggestions for the least expensive solution.
 
Yeah, the others are right, I think -- you have the mixer sending the new part and the already-recorded stuff back into the soundcard together. Thats' why I asked about the mixer -- I was suspicious :)

You need to have a way to separate the signals, but I'm not sure there's any way to do it with your mixer, unless there's an effects send. If so, you might be able to use the effects send as the input to your soundcard. Patch the channel(s) with the guitar or whatever (but not the channels carrying what's coming back out of the soundcard) to the effects send.

Other possible approaches --
  • a different mixer with at least one extra bus (also known as a subgroup), or direct channel outputs (line outs for each channel). The Behringer MX1604A is the cheapest one I know of, it has an alt stereo bus.
  • don't route the output of the soundcard to the mixer, go straight to the power amp (or, if you use powered monitors, straight to the speakers). Then you can use the mixer simply as a input device for your sound card, with a couple of mic preamps with phantom power, line inputs, etc.

    Good luck! Let us know how it works out...
 
Your cheapest way out is to use an effects processor ,pre amp or direct box as your input source and use the mixer just for monitoring. You will probably get cleaner tracks this way also.
 
O.K. But I need Phatom power for my Mic going in.
Suggestions? Maybe the audio buddy? Will that work?
 
Riccol - I think most preamps will give you phantom power (at least you can check the specs to make sure before you buy one).

However, you probably want to try what AlChuck suggested first - since it won't cost anything. I believe your mixer has an aux send connection on it. You might try routing from there to your sound card (rather than the main outs) and then assigning only the channel that carries your mic to the aux. That should work to get you an isolated signal for recording.
 
O.k. but my mixer has just one 1/4 in output desginated aux send.
How do I do that when the card has left and right in?
 
I'm afraid you could only do that by recording sending your signal into one track and recording it mono. But that's a better way anyway for guitar and vocals, unless you are stereo miking, which is a somewhat advanced thing to do. You are better off tracking in mono, it's the normal way to record. The stereoness of a typical recording comes from panning the tracks to the stereo field in the mix. The disadvantage is you can't record two people singing through two mics and run each mic signal to a separate input on the soundcard, or you can't capture the output of a stereo effects device- you would have to apply such effects to the guitar signal after it's been recorded to get a stereo image.

The MX802A has two aux sends...
 
Thanks AlChuck--I will try that -- Nothing else has worked

The only thing I would want the two outs for is some of the guitar effects (Rotary sounds etc.) Do mosts mixers have stereo aux send?

I'm still getting brain cramps trying to understand the setting in the patchbay router tab of the delta control panel!
 
Most mixers have at least one aux send, many have several.
 
O.K. were back to square one. -- I went from my guitar processor into the ins on the card -- then back out to the mixer.
Still same problem.
Gotta be the setting in the control panel --
Something I'm just not gettting
or something it can't be this hard
 
Gidge said:
im starting to feel pity.....sounds like you have "monitor mixer" selected as your input instead of one of the inputs HW 1/2 or S/PDIF, whatever is being used......when i can get the other computer fired up tomorrow ill let you know all the settings i use....

what software are you recording with again?...
Click to expand...

in your software, make sure the source you choose to record from is HW 1/2 and not "monitor mixer"......
 
O.K.
In my software for input drivers I have these choices:
PCM in 1/2
SPDIF in Monmix

Then for the output drivers I have these choices:
Waveout 1/2
Waveout S/PDIF

These are the only options I have in the software.

Aslo
What settings should I set in the patchbay router section of the delta control panel?
 
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