I actually laughed when I read this ....

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Uhuh,... uhuh,...

Aw, man, regebro,... you're really over-the-top!

Thanks for the concise quoting of my posts, and yes, those were little jabs at your pompous, self-proclaimed "genius" status, from way back,... which we all know is a joke, anyway. To say, (para) "although I'm less intelligent than regebro, but I disagree...", is hardly a vicious attack! Who started with the hyperbolae and profanity? You.

Despite it all,... and all this silliness,... I'll just say,... c'mon regebro,... can't we give it a rest & bury the hatchet? That you're incessantly argumentative is obvious, but can't we call a joke a joke,... agree to disagree & move on? You're obviously hypersensitive, and if I twanged a sore nerve somehow, I'M SORRY! You're being totally unreasonable, if you don't see that it was a little joke. On the contrary, in post after post, you've hurled profanities at me! I can speak to the topic, but at this point you're sounding like a crybaby. For however many four letter words and profanities you've called me, my feelings aren't hurt. Why are you being this way? I've apologized many times over, and I'm truly starting to worry about your sanity.

To say (para) "I'm less intelligent than regebro" is not a vicious insult! Would you please give it a rest? Sheesh! I cannot say any more how sorry I am, if I started a flame war,... or whatever it is. You're not behaving rationally. BBS chatter is not that important! How could you misconstrue my mild poking of fun as a vicious attack? By the same token, how could I look past all of your pointed profanities and still try to apologize?

Think about it, regebro. Who's on a crusade now? Not me.

I'm done with your trollbaiting posts. I appeal to your rational side. For us to trade little jabs and insults is surely not new, but you've surely taken it to another level. Can we just cease and decist? Let's get this thread back on a track of relative normality, by mutual effort, otherwise,... insult me as you may, but I'm through responding!

Thanx.

/DA
 
A Reel Person said:
Despite it all,... and all this silliness,... I'll just say,... c'mon regebro,... can't we give it a rest & bury the hatchet?
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I have no hatchet to bury. You have it, and you use it, repeatedly. As I told you: I'm tired of forgiving you, because I know you will not change, and you will soon do it all over again. If you want to bury the hatchet, please, go on and do so, but I'm convinced you'll just put it in your back pocket, where you again will reach for it as soon as somebody sais something that even remotely can be construed as possibly thinking about how it might be able to be interpreted in a way that you don't agree with.

I'm fucking tired of your insults and unprovoced attack, not only against me, but also against other people. If you want to stop it, then you stop it. But there is no hatchet, there is only you. I can not do anything to make you change, only you can.
 
God bless you, & have a nice day!

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A Reel Person said:
Aw, man, regebro,... you're really over-the-top!

Thanks for the concise quoting of my posts, and yes, those were little jabs at your pompous, self-proclaimed "genius" status, from way back,... which we all know is a joke, anyway. To say, (para) "although I'm less intelligent than regebro, but I disagree...", is hardly a vicious attack! Who started with the hyperbolae and profanity? You.

Despite it all,... and all this silliness,... I'll just say,... c'mon regebro,... can't we give it a rest & bury the hatchet? That you're incessantly argumentative is obvious, but can't we call a joke a joke,... agree to disagree & move on? You're obviously hypersensitive, and if I twanged a sore nerve somehow, I'M SORRY! You're being totally unreasonable, if you don't see that it was a little joke. On the contrary, in post after post, you've hurled profanities at me! I can speak to the topic, but at this point you're sounding like a crybaby. For however many four letter words and profanities you've called me, my feelings aren't hurt. Why are you being this way? I've apologized many times over, and I'm truly starting to worry about your sanity.

To say (para) "I'm less intelligent than regebro" is not a vicious insult! Would you please give it a rest? Sheesh! I cannot say any more how sorry I am, if I started a flame war,... or whatever it is. You're not behaving rationally. BBS chatter is not that important! How could you misconstrue my mild poking of fun as a vicious attack? By the same token, how could I look past all of your pointed profanities and still try to apologize?

Think about it, regebro. Who's on a crusade now? Not me.

I'm done with your trollbaiting posts. I appeal to your rational side. For us to trade little jabs and insults is surely not new, but you've surely taken it to another level. Can we just cease and decist? Let's get this thread back on a track of relative normality, by mutual effort, otherwise,... insult me as you may, but I'm through responding!

Thanx.

/DA
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.....And you started the profanity with me you sad sack of useless shit. Right, Dave?


Pay the royalities you common criminal.
 
God bless you, & have a nice day!

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cjacek said:
There is nothing that Dave (ARP) said here that deserves the kind of sadistic attitude you have toward him. You guys are horrible. You have sunk low, really low ...

~Daniel
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I have to agree with regbro. This a-hole Dave cannot even give anyone who prefers (or it is ALL THEY CAN AFFORD) digital any credit at all. Hell, not everyone can afford or find an analog recorder in any form. You can record digital with a computer and $200 if you were on a severe budget. Is that any reason to trash and denegrate a person who wants some answers about recording?

Please go look at threads and see how he does this to everyone who has a different opinion.
 
Dave you monster!!! :eek: I had no idea you were such an evil force. You should be banned from the internet and put in prison. Sonusman and I will personally hunt you down and hang you by your testicles...you beast!!! :mad:
 
acorec said:
I have to agree with regbro. This a-hole Dave cannot even give anyone who prefers (or it is ALL THEY CAN AFFORD) digital any credit at all. Hell, not everyone can afford or find an analog recorder in any form. You can record digital with a computer and $200 if you were on a severe budget. Is that any reason to trash and denegrate a person who wants some answers about recording?

Please go look at threads and see how he does this to everyone who has a different opinion.
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Can't say I have seen Reel trash people who use digital because it's cheap. I could be wrong, but I haven't seen it. There is no reason to exaggerate.
 
Beck said:
I hear ya. I've outlined the same shit about 30 times. :mad: We have a substantial difference of opinion. I can respectfully disagree because you present an eloquent argument.

I really don’t think of myself as an analog basher. It’s just my opinion. The article that started this thread needed bashing big time though. Whether you prefer digital or not that piece was from fairytale land.

I’m still surprised by how many home recordists are oblivious to the issues and unaware of the alternatives available to them. For that reason the issue is always alive here and I think it should be.

I agree that analog may never be like it was because of marketing and price/performance issues. Manufactures have a good thing going in the home recording market with digital technology. They have no incentive to upset the status quo. Why sell a piece of hardware when you can just sell an illusion on a computer screen that looks like and even simulates the familiar hardware. It started before digital though with cheap toy-like cassette portastudios.

However, there will always be a substantial core who will support analog recording to keep it afloat. In that regard analog is far from gone. The current trend shows that it is now more alive than it was a few years ago. It’s hard to pronounce a patient dead when their vital signs are trending up.

In January of this year everyone was talking “The death of analog” because of Quantegy. Now Quantegy is back, RMGI is manufacturing the old BASF/EMTEC formulas and ATR Magnetics is set to unveil their new open reel tape by Fall. We went from having no open reel tape manufacturers to having three. Tascam and Otari still manufacture half-track open reel decks, Tascam still makes cassette studios. Who knows, they may see a market in the growing analog movement and throw us a bone or something.

At any rate, Companies like ATR and JRF are refurbishing what we already have. Both Tascam and ATR are sourcing new replacement parts. That will continue for the foreseeable future. The fat lady hasn’t sung yet. ;)

I don’t see Analog as ever overtaking digital in the current “music store” market. It won’t be what everyone is doing. But it will continue to be something that people who know what they’re doing are doing. :)

-Tim
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Your writing and argument (argument does NOT mean fighting. An argument is putting forth facts and talking about them with a supporting view) should be a sticky on how to frame a post and respectfully disagree. You do it well and deserve respect.
 
A Reel Person said:
It said, (para),...

Here is the Tascam Pocketstudio 5. It enables you to record your band in tracks and add effects,... like Pro Tools!

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffff!

I laughed pretty hard at that one!
:D :confused: :eek: :D :rolleyes: ;)
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It isn't true, Dave? Tell us how so, what are they missing? Can the Porta 5 add effects like Pro-Tools? If it can (and I know it can), then how is it much different in function than Pro Tools? I know you spend all your available time pouring over the user manuals of these things so that you can seem to be smart, so , Tell us.
 
Besides, I thought Pro Tools was digital, and so it that pocket studio, so hence they must both be crap, right? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :p
 
GUILTY!!! (Me raising my hand).

I have offended and have been offended on this bbs. I’ve been unmovable, over the top and sometimes careless in the matter a fact way I word things. I can see how it might be interpreted as being insensitive at times.

It’s hard to say something like I prefer analog over digital without appearing as though I’m calling into question the skills and judgment of those who use it exclusively. The truth is though I would use both; even though analog would be somewhere in the process and digital wouldn’t have to be. That is, at this point in time I would always blend digital with analog and not use digital alone. That could change in the future – it depends.

In fact I have digital processors, keyboards, and drum machines – including a 12 bit Roland TR-707 no less. :eek: It is my opinion though that they are given more depth and life when the final product is an analog recording.

Yes I feel that the move to digital happened too quickly and spread like a plague or religious movement – strong words, I know. However, that won’t stop me from using it in moderation. Digital is not anathema in my book I just think it’s overrated.

Anyway, I for one am a little uncomfortable with the amount of heat vs. light that is emanating from this thread. And I apologize for any negative contribution that may have increased anyone’s personal stress.

The funny thing is I think most members here would agree the article that started the thread paints an unrealistic picture of the musical capabilities of the personal computer. We just got off on the broader issue of digital vs. analog.

I think it would be cool if we could recover this thread because it would be unusual and different to do so. There is a wealth of knowledge here from years of experience in a wide range of methodologies.

Sometimes these personal conflicts are just birth pains that will eventually result in a 9-pound bouncing bundle of mutual respect. I hope that is the result here. We're human. We screw up. It doesn't matter to me as much who started it, as who will end it. :)

Regards,
Tim
 
There are two easy ways to go through life......

Beck said:
Both here and on the old Tascam forum, I used the word religion some time back while discussing the digital craze, how it got started and how it persists today. Regebro took it and ran with it, but turned it around and applied it to analog.

Ironically, even other digital heads have used regebro’s “religion” in discussions with me about analog – thinking they were saying something profound that would just blow me away. (Laugh track here) :D

I previously used the term in digital/analog discussions so I feel obliged to put it back into perspective. Having studied the psychology of cults and extremist groups I saw parallels between how an irrational move from a mature analog technology to an experimental digital took place. Like many movements it was a product of good marketing and snowballing groupthink.

In the beginning there was a sense that digital was just so beyond the average recordist that it was user error that produced poor results – the user was not worthy. People clung to faith that once they were baptized, confirmed and trained in the ways of the holy order, the digital god would answer. After that didn’t materialize with early digital systems people put faith in an evolving digital yet to come – higher, bit rate, resolution, better AD converters, etc. When that prophecy wasn’t fulfilled truth itself was redefined to fit the digital paradigm.

There were schisms and denominations formed within the digital movement. There were and still are the digital purists who say, “I don’t hear anything. What’s wrong with it?” Then there are the reformists who do hear something unnatural so have pursued tubes/valves and other circuitry to add “warmth” and “character.”

Then there are the “non-believers” like some of us. Though our preferred technology is mature, tried and proven, younger generations who have only known digital see us as “The Others.”

The truth is most of us know digital has come a long way and can be used to augment an analog studio. Can it stand on its own? Not to my ears. If it could I would happily use it. It’s convenient, feature rich and economically smart. It just doesn’t deliver.

The USA Today article that inspired this thread crosses the line of ridiculous. It is more of the same breathless worship of a false digital god that started the whole trend.

The amateur or noob is not surprised by the claims in the article. It’s easy to believe as it blends nicely with our computer-centric culture. What shocks the amateur is that there could be a crisis in the professional recording industry for a shortage of analog tape – “They still use that stuff?” ;)

Amen
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One. Believe everything you hear

Two. Disbelieve everything you hear

amen
Non
 
Hey Dave ole buddy, how ya doin guy :D Damn, been a long time since we visited..hey, did I ever tell you how much I enjoyed my visit with ya ;) You are a super host and a super friendly person Dave. I hope I get a chance to do it again one day. Oh, btw, for all its worth.....all I can say is I think "some" people haven't got a clue about REAL insults, among other things.

.....hey Rego ole buddy, Interesting, I see your trying to speak in sentences now. If you could do something about the drooling I might understand you better. However, in your case it'll take more than that lobotomy to cure it. Let me suggest a good dose of pure oxygen. I know it may be difficult with those gills, but It does wonders for the brain...oops, I forgot . So sorry. BTW, I wonder why the doctors didn't suture that incision? Oooooh, I see. Thats your tongue hanging out..dumb me. I thought they left part of a frontal lobe..hmmm. No wonder you talk funny. And here I thought you were actually saying words. If only you could crawl . You could write them with your tail instead. Of course, the slime might make it hard to read, but what the hell, its better than those gutteral noises you make. And just think, You could make a fortune charging admission. Afterall, your living proof the missing link exists. Man, I can see it now. World tours... hell they'd come for miles to see it.....er ...you Although, your tank would be hard to transport and your diet of alge would have to be in the rider. No matter. If that didn't work you could always join a freak show........damn, gettin late. Well, don't fret...something good will happen for you. Hell, endangered species die off all the time...so fear not, your time will come...


Hey Dave, wanna jam? :D
fitZ
 
Beck said:
I think it would be cool if we could recover this thread because it would be unusual and different to do so. There is a wealth of knowledge here from years of experience in a wide range of methodologies.
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I think it would be cool but it seems to be becoming more and more unlikely :(

I am about ready to give up on this thread.
 
What is there to recover? I mean, really? If there was something in this thread you actually found interesting, start a new one about that. ;)

if you want to continue the religious wars, do that, and I will continue to claim that the religious war between analog and digital is stupid. :p
 
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