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I've had some suggestions on the mix and it's as good as I can make it, I think.
Anything that might occur to you, I'd like to hear it

 
I love it man...nice intricacies happening throughout the tune. I also like the vocals on this...they fit well with what's happening in the tune. Guitars sound nice, and those little notes splattered throughout, sound great. The clean tones are nice also. Bass is good, and cool drums.
Overall, the mix sounds really good.....seems to be processed just right. It has good dynamics, and is meshed together nicely.

Fun tune man. :cool:
 
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Sup Bulls.... Cool tune... My gripe is with the intro guit...it's got something going on with some super high end...it's cool, but I think ya might benefit from putting some EQ on the way top end....

Also, seems maybe like it could use some more dynamics over the whole mix...Did ya maybe slam the whole thing a tad too hot? I know dogman thought it sounded good, so maybe it's that high end thing that is fatiguing my ear??

Good arrangement and kept my interest thru the whole tune...I love all the little things going on....Vox are great for the tune (heh that sounds lame) let me put it this way, what you did with the vox fit in nicley with the tune and performed well... :p :D
 
Perdicament said:
Sup Bulls.... Cool tune... My gripe is with the intro guit...it's got something going on with some super high end...it's cool, but I think ya might benefit from putting some EQ on the way top end....

Also, seems maybe like it could use some more dynamics over the whole mix...Did ya maybe slam the whole thing a tad too hot? I know dogman thought it sounded good, so maybe it's that high end thing that is fatiguing my ear??

Good arrangement and kept my interest thru the whole tune...I love all the little things going on....Vox are great for the tune (heh that sounds lame) let me put it this way, what you did with the vox fit in nicley with the tune and performed well... :p :D
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are you very young perdicament? i'm 38 and i don't even hear 'that high end thing' (anymore?) :D :D :D
to me this mix sounds really good, a bit bright for my taste but that's just a matter of opinion.
the guitar sounds are superbe and i really dig those vocals!!!
cool tune!

this really is very well balanced and you did a great job on those drums.
 
Hey fader, no I'm not very young I'm 34 and there is no question that my ears have suffered some loss, especially in the high end.

the wah part on the intro, and actually throughout the tune has some serious sizzle to it... like if I were guessing somewhere upwards around 8k...

The mix is good, don't get me wrong, but there is alot of high end in it, especially on that guit bit. It's got that "SSSSSSS" almost like distorted fizz, but usually on the guitar that resides around 5k, this is higher than that..
 
Very cool man. Your grooves are always real cool. The guitars work really well together especially at like the break/solo halfway through the song or so. Love the entire end, has a real cool vibe. Vocals are cool, like your style with all that. Mix sounds pretty good but i am also hearing a bit of that sizzle in the real high end but didn't find it as distracting as perdicament. Other then that i think it sounds good. Nice song man

take care

gary
 
Bulls HIt it sounds like alot of phasing is going on. I don't hear any bass and I'd really like to hear some. I like the vocals. The kick drum is kinda weak sounding.

So there is is in a nutshell IMO you need to check the phase, then add a bass, and some ballz to the kick.

Will
 
That intro guitar does seem to have some excessive sssssssizzle to it listening on headphones.....
The rest of the mix sounds real good, love the tones on the guitars and the punch on the drums.....
Very cool mood in the writing, heavy ......

:) :D :) :D
 
Dogman - wow Hey thanks for the cool review Ed. :D I'm glad you liked it. Yeah I'm OK with the vocals, at least they're not offensively bad. With the exception of the bass I'm pleased how this one turned out. Thanks for checking it out again


Perdicament - Hey man..I went back and had a look at the intro guitars and yeah there's a spike at 6K and yes it's actually on all the guitars. I'm wondering if this is a feature of my GNX3. So I notched it down and it's not so bad now. Well spotted sir! :D I ran the mix through a limiter for about a 5db gain, so not to oTT. It is a tradeoff but there's only a few spots in the song where I want to hear the dynamics, and I'm OK with them. Thanks for the comments on the vocal..I still don't know how to actually sing in the right key etc so I got lucky that this turned out OK. Thanks for the EQ thing too, the mix is better now


faderbug - Glad you liked it man. Yeah my ears are a little jaded too. I didn't notice the high guitars until Perdicament pointed it out. Thanks for the kind words on the vocal. It's good that some people don't seem to hate it... :D


gbav - Thanks for the cool comments gary. Yeah I've hopefully sorted that high end sizzle in this mix. I'm glad you liked the tune. It's probably the most balanced one I've done so far. Cheers


bigwillz24 - You mean phasing between L & R? I had a listen to your mp3 and I didn't notice much difference...I did bump the kick up a tad. You're right, it was getting lost at times. The bass, I'm just admitting defeat on this one. It didn't turn out right, and I'm just going to leave it now. Thanks for the feedback man, I appreciate it


ido1957 - Thanks for checking it out ido. Heavy's good. With the help I'm getting here, I think I'm edging towards a better sound :D Thanks man!
 
faderbug said:
how can that affect the sound?
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Well if the mix is out of phase some frequencies tend to dissappear. Hard for me to explain you have to hear it.
 
Bulls Hit said:
bigwillz24 - You mean phasing between L & R? I had a listen to your mp3 and I didn't notice much difference...I did bump the kick up a tad. You're right, it was getting lost at times. The bass, I'm just admitting defeat on this one. It didn't turn out right, and I'm just going to leave it now. Thanks for the feedback man, I appreciate it
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Bulls Hit

Listen to both again you should hear a little more low end in the mix I flipped the phase on. It's not a major change.

If you have something like the Waves PAZ Analyzer you'll be able to see what I'm talking about.
 
bigwillz24 said:
Bulls Hit

Listen to both again you should hear a little more low end in the mix I flipped the phase on. It's not a major change.

If you have something like the Waves PAZ Analyzer you'll be able to see what I'm talking about.
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'flipping phase' only has an effect when you sum that track with another one. for instance in m/s recording you reverse the phase of your figure 8 mike to filter out everything that's in the middle.

when you reverse the phase on just one track it has no effect.

do you mean centering dc-offset?
 
faderbug said:
'flipping phase' only has an effect when you sum that track with another one. for instance in m/s recording you reverse the phase of your figure 8 mike to filter out everything that's in the middle.

when you reverse the phase on just one track it has no effect.

do you mean centering dc-offset?
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Stereo tracks have two channels Left and Right. If you flip the phase of either channel in a stereo track your going to introduce phase....
 
I'm not phased by phase though that may just be a phase I'm going through.
This sounds very good to my ear except the little stagger of the riff at 2.30.
THis has al sorts of parentage & is a nice little baby for all that.
EXCELLENT.
 
bigwillz24 said:
Stereo tracks have two channels Left and Right. If you flip the phase of either channel in a stereo track your going to introduce phase....
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why would you want to do that? the only interaction between the two channels of a stereo track (when played in stereo) is outside of the speaker ie the room you're listening in. since every room has different accoustic properties the outcome of such an operation is unpredictable. in your room it might sound better, in mine worse.

you know that the two speakers of a stereo set have to be rigged the same? + goes to + and - to - in both speakers alike. the reason for this is to prevent phase cancelling problems to occur. your 'flipping phase' is like switching the cables that go to one speaker.
thus creating phase cancellation.

i'm not doubting there is less bass in your flipped file.
when in a good enough (or bad enough) room both channels would cancel each other out leaving nothing but silence ...
 
faderbug said:
why would you want to do that? the only interaction between the two channels of a stereo track (when played in stereo) is outside of the speaker ie the room you're listening in. since every room has different accoustic properties the outcome of such an operation is unpredictable. in your room it might sound better, in mine worse.

you know that the two speakers of a stereo set have to be rigged the same? + goes to + and - to - in both speakers alike. the reason for this is to prevent phase cancelling problems to occur. your 'flipping phase' is like switching the cables that go to one speaker.
thus creating phase cancellation.

i'm not doubting there is less bass in your flipped file.
when in a good enough (or bad enough) room both channels would cancel each other out leaving nothing but silence ...
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i hear what you are saying faderbug but I believe you are blowing it out of proportion.

The phase issue i'm talking about is taking place before the speakers in the signal chain so the room has nothing to do with it at that point. The song is either in phase or it isn't. There is no point to argue.

The only thing i did was listen & say it sounded out of phase then confirm what I heard with an analyzer. Then attempt to fix it.

Geez man...
 
Hey Bulls...just listened to your tune(I have been resting my ears a lot ;) )

I wanna hear bass. :D

I love this one. It has a subtle creepy cool Alice Cooper aura around it.

I am impressed with the different effects on the axes. The different use's of the metalizer sound and other tone alterations, makes this tone eclectic.

Axe sounds almost like a deep-throated scream at 00:31 and the change at :40 is cool and also 2:03...I hear metalized harmonics here.

Your vox are great! BUT..not volumized enough....I love the tone of your voice. Rich and magnetic. You should showcase it more.

The drums are lacking. :confused: They are not par to the Bulls' sound. Have they been compressed a bit too much. I am not sure what it is yet, but something is amiss...probably my ears. :p

By and by...I really like this Bulls. Once again talent reigns!! :cool:
 
bigwillz24 said:
i hear what you are saying faderbug but I believe you are blowing it out of proportion.

The phase issue i'm talking about is taking place before the speakers in the signal chain so the room has nothing to do with it at that point. The song is either in phase or it isn't. There is no point to argue.

The only thing i did was listen & say it sounded out of phase then confirm what I heard with an analyzer. Then attempt to fix it.

Geez man...
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i did not realise you had checked it with an analyzer. now i understand.
 
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