how to warm a sound?

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Magneto seems popular these days... however I would just use a nice tube pre amp,compressor,mic, or actual tape.
 
Aloha said:
Magneto seems popular these days... however I would just use a nice tube pre amp,compressor,mic, or actual tape.
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magneto is a brand but whats the common name for a warmer? is it tape saturation?
 
sweetnubs said:
microwave. high. 35 seconds. what does "warm" mean?
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a dedicated member seems to be outdated :confused:
well warm means a lack of hardness, high ends and hiss of the music
 
You can use any conventional oven, or even a toaster oven (provided that the audio storage medium fits in the oven door).

Other than those plug-ins, Vintage Warmer has a neat sound, then there's Magneto, AIPL WarmTone, the digitalfishphones stuff, and Cakewalk's TapeSim.

The question is, what's wrong with your sounds now, and how can you improve them before they hit disk/tape?
 
mallcore pop said:
You can use any conventional oven, or even a toaster oven (provided that the audio storage medium fits in the oven door).

Other than those plug-ins, Vintage Warmer has a neat sound, then there's Magneto, AIPL WarmTone, the digitalfishphones stuff, and Cakewalk's TapeSim.

The question is, what's wrong with your sounds now, and how can you improve them before they hit disk/tape?
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lacking of professionality.......I played well, I edit well, arrange well, mix well. Mastering? I dont think so....something lacking...
:) and definitely the presence of warmth. imagine........
 
jerberson12 said:
a dedicated member seems to be outdated :confused:
well warm means a lack of hardness, high ends and hiss of the music
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I think you missed might have missed actual question presented to you.;)
 
jerberson12 said:
lacking of professionality.......I played well, I edit well, arrange well, mix well. Mastering? I dont think so....something lacking...
:) and definitely the presence of warmth. imagine........
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Alright. I'm imagining that if you played it well, edited well, arranged well, and mixed well . . . then your mix should sound warm enough. If not, then review backwards and find out where the warmth is lacking. Usually, it's at the tracking phase -- most often a result of poor mic selection (cheap mics that sound harsh or that accentuate the high end). Or perhaps too many layers/tracks utilizing a particular mic or preamp that imparts that type of quality over several layers.

Using a plugin or processor after the fact isn't going to help out a lot . . . although I would have to admit I do like the sound of some of the very high endish tube compressors and/or 2" analog tape. And a fatso Junior would be a very worthwhile processor, but any of these options are going to cost you some dough.

I also like PSP Vintage Warmer as an effect. That can be a really fun plugin . . . but not sure if it's going to give you what you're after. I mean it's still tough for me to imagine extra DSP to be the answer for imparting analog-type distorion artifacts. It's worth a try, I suppose. Just so long as you keep your expectations fairly low.
 
jebes, the nubmeister is definately not out of date. "warm" as applied to audio is a nonsensical term and could mean many things to many people. I constantly confront this while recording and if we all spoke proper terms this business would be much easier. What does warm mean to you? tape saturation. Even harmonic disortion. Reduced high end. Boosted bass end. A reduction in mid-frequencies in the 2-5k range? Room mics? chamber reverb? analog? digital? proximity effect? see what i am getting at. Warm to you can sound simply "natural" to someone else. A reduced high end (reduced relative to what?) may sound warm to you but dull to someone else"

what does lack of hardness mean?


if you said to me while mixing you'd like a little tape saturation on the guitar track I'd know what in the hell you are talking about. If you said I'd like a little tube distortion I'd know what you are talking about. The term "warm" has no reference point. I bet if i tracked and mixed your band you wouldn't need a "warmer" because I would have captured the natural sound of your instruments with nice mics, pre's, good converters, etc. Bad versions of said equipment can add digital hash, jitter, IM odd-order harmonic distortion, which may sound "hard" to you. A "warmer" plug is bunk as far as I'm concerned.
 
My tracks are warm but some are a little burnt. I'd like them to be more green.
 
I like mine to be two hairs past orange.

Like, orange with browned edges.

With a little soar right on the side.

MP, baby
 
You guys mean that to warm a sound definitely will be base on performaces and the equipment, No plugins needed? :o
If the equipements are concerned, I would be looking for an expensive gear. If the performances are concerned, i would be going back to my drawing board or should I say plant potatoes.
 
Everything said above re: tracking it correctly in the first place is the correct answer.

If you need to bodgy a track, try either the Antares Tube plugin or the BBE Sonic Maximizer.

:) Q.

Just don't use them on everything at 10, please ;)
 
Warmth

In digital recording, the conventional wisdom seems to be that you should add some piece of tube gear (a tube preamp, for example) somewhere in your recording chain. You can also address to the warmth issue during the mastering process, since a number of mastering engineers use high quality analog/tube gear.
 
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dwillis45 said:
In digital recording, the conventional wisdom seems to be that you should add some piece of tube gear (a tube preamp, for example) somewhere in your recording chain.
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Say what???? :rolleyes:

Conventional wisdom (whether using analog or digital media) dictates that you get the sound right at the source, then record it. Then you don't have to worry about "warmth"...............
 
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Blue Bear Sound said:
Say what???? :rolleyes:

Conventional wisdom (whether using analog or digital media) dictates that you get the sound right at the source, then record it. Then you don't have to worry about "warmth"...............
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You should tell that to my Martin.........:o I think there might be a slight disagreement between you too.
 
What's that mean? You can't get a good tone out of your Martin????

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Bottom line is crap going in equals crap coming out.... if it sounds bad going into the recorder, no amount of "warming" is going to help.......... and the basic truth is, people who are complaining about "needing warmth" are either living in the Arctic, or they're not tracking the source properly.
 
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