How to record hip hop vocals and keep them to the beat?

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Whats the best way i could record hip hop vocals and put it into a song, without moving the track so its off the beat. Cause if you change it even slightly from where you spat it to the beat, it will sound off, and even if its slightly placed off, it will slowly get off the whole time. you can do it by ear, but it would be impossible to get it totaly right. I have a song structured in acid, and as before we were going to record into acid so i directly put it into the song, so we would'nt have to move it or anything, and then we could edit the file, put on effects, and still have it in the same place in the song, so it wouldnt get off beat. I don't know how good of a job acid does for recording, so i was considering using sound forge, or logic audio, or some other program to do it, then save the vocals, then put them in acid, but the problem is it would be impossible to line it up without sqrewin up our flows. Any advice? and how is acid for recording? would it be ok quality to just record into acid? Thanks guys, i apriciate the help in advance.
 
ambi said:
..... would be impossible to line it up without sqrewin up our flows. .....
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No, it shouldn't be a problem lining the vocals up with the track.
 
Don't forget to disable your SNAPPING, when lining up your vocals. ;)
 
yea

yea, i know
but if you record into acid, then its lined up perfectly the way you spat it
if you record it else where i try to line it up you will NEVER get it exactly the same
 
Acid does fine recording usually. But here's another way.

Arrange your drum loops how you want them. Then go to your file menu and render the song as a wav file. You can choose your format when you render.

Then, open your multi-tracker, like logic or ckaewalk or something. Import the wav file you just made from acid into it as a track.

Then, record your vocals in the multi-tracker.

When I record, I usually make my loops in fruity-loops, export them as wav files, and the make my drum track in acid. Then I usually record my bassline and some other instruments into acid so I can just play through it once, rather than over and over again.
 
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ambi said:
.... if you record it else where i try to line it up you will NEVER get it exactly the same
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It will line up if you make the Vocal WAV. a One-Shot. ;)
 
spin took the words right out of my mouth....... right click on the track-choose properties and make sure its a one shot track not beatmapped or looped.
 
Not funny

I am TOTALLY OVER that mess. I don't want to think about closing costs, interest rates, amortization tables.....ANYTHING!!!! The only thing on my mind right about now is JACUZZI TUBS, SEX, AND MUSIC! I'm goin' nuts just LOOKIN' at MOST of my equipment boxed up...ug...the 2 days i'll be unable to record ....oooohhh...guess i'll just have to soak in the jacuzzi tub and have sex to deal with the trauma of not being able to make music. HA HA!

But back to the point. I still say that importing the .wav files into Cakewalk...then making a separate, or multi-tracks for your vox is the best way to go. Take a listen...lemme know what y'all think...i don't think the vox fall of beat...and i'm pullin' the beats outta acid.

Cry No More Rain
 
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ambi said:
yea, i know
but if you record into acid, then its lined up perfectly the way you spat it
if you record it else where i try to line it up you will NEVER get it exactly the same
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Why can't you line it up.. Just drag it into place... Am I missing something... maybe I am..

I am always lining stuff up, and very precisely...

Even High-hat tracks, which have to be locked right into the beat, even more importantly than hip hop vocals..

Just drag it until it's in place by ear....

Joe
 
yes

yes you can do that. You can drag and place by ear , but depending on how complex your beat is, it could be hard to get it to the exact place.
and if you do, i could get a milisecond off, and then be total sqrewed. oh well, guess its not really a problem, just wondering if there was an easier way to do it.
And what programs is best for recording? SoundforgE? Logic audio?
 
Pro Tools LE (Digi 001)... in my opinion...

And you should be able to drag it very close and just nudge it in to the right spot, by typing in how many miliseconds and which way you want it to go...

There is probably a feature to do that type of placement on your DAW....

I think most do that.. I know my Pro Tools Does... But I've never had to do that...

I always just line up by ear...


I don't think it has anything to do with how complicated the beat is...

If you have more shit going on in the beat, thats actually easier, there are more reference points for your ear..
 
I think you should try Cubase, I've never recorded vocals outside of a program that I did the beat in, your just looking for trouble recording vocals outside a program where you did your beat. I don't really understand your question, as I don't understand why all you people record your vocals in a different format than what you do your beats in. I use logic and cubase, and I just got nuendo, and I believe all of them will compensate for even shitty soundcards with latency. For example, cubase automatically corrects latency when you record digital audio. So there is never this problem. What part of the question am I missing?
 
I think you should try Cubase, I've never recorded vocals outside of a program that I did the beat in, your just looking for trouble recording vocals outside a program where you did your beat. I don't really understand your question, as I don't understand why all you people record your vocals in a different format than what you do your beats in. I use logic and cubase, and I just got nuendo, and I believe all of them will compensate for even shitty soundcards with latency. For example, cubase automatically corrects latency when you record digital audio. So there is never this problem. What part of the question am I missing?
 
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