how to get your audio loud without...

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MCI2424 said:
Squash the thing so it is a big DC level signal at exactly 0dbfs.

Can't get any louder than that, I assure you.
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Besides it's certainly not the way, pros do it, a big DC level isn't even audible and may be harmful for the amps and speakers.

The felt loudest possible is a full scale square wave at the frequency where the human perception is most sensitive. Should be somewhere around 3 kHz.

Technically, the loudest possible (ie. a sound having the most possible energy) is a fullscale square wave at the nyquist frequency, though you wouldn't hear much if anything at all, unless you use lo-fi sample rates. This also can damage the speakers.
 
Massive Master said:
A monkey with a limiter can make *any* mix as loud as any other.

What it's going to sound like at those levels are another story entirely...
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Actually, if you give a thousand monkeys a mix and give them a thousand of a good limiter to work with then you get one mix that is loud and sounds magnificent!!


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LogicDeLuxe said:
Besides it's certainly not the way, pros do it, a big DC level isn't even audible and may be harmful for the amps and speakers.

The felt loudest possible is a full scale square wave at the frequency where the human perception is most sensitive. Should be somewhere around 3 kHz.

Technically, the loudest possible (ie. a sound having the most possible energy) is a fullscale square wave at the nyquist frequency, though you wouldn't hear much if anything at all, unless you use lo-fi sample rates. This also can damage the speakers.
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Who cares about the speakers? He wants to ROCK!
And, BTW THE pro way is to go like inf to 1 to another compressor and 20:1 to a limiter set at brick wall limiting, double the volume and burn that CD for prosperity. (be sure to set at 0dbfs)

Tip: You can hear DC. It sounds like one big gigantic POP!

But, it was all worth it. The CD will stand out in a changer.
 
flatfinger said:
Actually, if you give a thousand monkeys a mix and give them a thousand of a good limiter to work with then you get one mix that is loud and sounds magnificent!!
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But for how long do the monkeys work? How does 1,000 years sound?
 
LIMiT said:
My experience, if you're just trying to get the volume up without pumping, try using a couple of transparent compressors in a row, both only comping a db or two, then the limiter.

-LIMiT
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Agreed.

Some also clip an A/D converter slightly on peaks, not really a big fan of that though.
 
Reggie said:
But for how long do the monkeys work? How does 1,000 years sound?
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Whos going to pay for the 1000 year supply of bananas???? MASSIVE??? :p :p :p :p :p :eek:
MASTERINGHOUSE?? :p :p :p


Oh well , back to I-tunes mastering!!


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I just started doing this last night since I am new to it as well, but add a hard limiter to the final track, and limit it at about -6db (unless your mix is really loud, then adjust accordingly) and raise the gain on the track until it starts to sound like shit. Then keep slowly backing it off until you get to a nice sound and click ok :-)

Then your audio should look more square than all spikey and what not. Spikes and such are what usually cause normalizing to not have much effect. Now that the spikes are down but your audio still sounds nice, normalize to your desired level.

I boosted my RMS to about -17db this way without sacrificing the integrity (not that mine have much :D ) of the recording.
 
6 bananas per day for 1,000 monkeys for 1,000 years... That's 2.19 billion bananas at a cost of around .30 each - What's that, 657 million dollars in bananas?

Wouldn't a trip to Bob Katz's place be a better bargain?
 
Massive Master said:
Wouldn't a trip to Bob Katz's place be a better bargain?
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Not if we're forced to listen to an over-geeked lecture on his K system :D)

(*ducks to avoid flying tomatoes from Benny C.* :p )

G.
 
Massive Master said:
6 bananas per day for 1,000 monkeys for 1,000 years... That's 2.19 billion bananas at a cost of around .30 each - What's that, 657 million dollars in bananas?

Wouldn't a trip to Bob Katz's place be a better bargain?
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Well, I guess I can't argue with your logic. Although you must admit, the publicity would be great. Even better than the Slayer "no mastering" thing.

MASTERED BY: 1,000 MONKEYS OVER THE COURSE OF 1,000 YEARS AT THOUSAND MONKEY STUDIOS.
 
Every once in a great while, I do a project that I really don't want my name on. I think you've just given me a great idea for the liner credit on the next one...
 
I want to propose a new metering standard:
the " use every dam bit " meter.
This way any monkey w/ this system and a L2 can smash there audio like a banana!!!!!!!!!!!! :p



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flatfinger said:
I want to propose a new metering standard:
the " use every dam bit " meter.
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Why use meters anyway? Just turn up all knobs you can find until it hurts. Then you're done. :D
 
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