How to get more tracks from your fostex.

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to 4 track and 8 track cassette and digital standalone users.
i'm going to describe a techique for getting a lot more tracks out of your
standalone multitrack recorder that lots of people ive known have used.
this will also save you a tone of work in track laying and time.
for the sceptics amongst you, try it once , and i think youll be surprised how much fuller your songs become.
band in a box (biab) is an auto accompianment generator.
as the name implies it generates a back up band. eg...drums, keys,
bass, guitar rhythm,(or other instruments of your choosing) and even melodies etc.
you can pick from hundreds of music styles.
so - instead of laboriously laying down say drums, bass, keys etc on your 4 track for example and chewing up
valuable limited tracks. fire up biab on a pc, and have it generate a back up band for you.
(you can even modify styles for example), then output through your sound cards stereo line
out to your 4 or 8 track cassette or whatever line input and record to two tracks.
by the time youve done this , you will have a very powerfull full sounding arrangement.
and literally this will save you hours of recording time.
one technique folks have used is to have two 4 track cassette units for example.
so you record the biab arrangement to 2 tracks of 4 track number one.
(which as ive said will be pretty darn powerfull). so now you have your bed tracks
done. then on the remaining two tracks add say your added live rhythm instruments.
then mixdown to the second 4 track to two tracks , this leaves you two blank tracks on your second
4 track for lead vocals.
now people with a 8 track digital standalone recorder could go even further. record the biab output to two tracks.
leaving 6 tracks on the 8 track digital recorder for live back up vocals, lead vocals,
lead guitar etc. and as you can mixdown internally on some 8 track digital recorders .
you could get even more. for example. if the biab output is on tracks
1 and 2 of the digital recorder, and youve filled up 6 more tracks -
you could bounce it all down say to tracks 7/8 on the digital recorder and STILL
have 6 more tracks to record on.
the foregoing techniques could save a major expensive upgrade to a 24 track standalone digital recorder.
keep an open mind. and youll find if you do it right using biab,
that you wont have to add a lot of tracks as the biab arrangement will be so full.
i hope this helps someone out there. its a trick lots of musicians ive known
have stumbled upon. for the sceptics - just try it !!
 
Yeah manning, but how much is biab?

Weeeellll cellardweller, right now biab is available to you, our valued future customer for only $???, for a limited time only....

WOW!!! Only $???...! I can't believe it....
Can I set it and forget it?

Seriously,... how much is it?
 
i dont know cellar. it can range depending on the dealer.
also look carefully at the megapack. god knows how many styles.
i mean literraly thousands of styles.
some people make money out of creating add on styles i believe like norton music i think is one.
also if you google and put in search band in a box styles there are loads of them created by third parties.
 
I just "obtained the usage" of drums, so I'm not sure if I will be looking to upgrade my current canned drums or not...

Besides that, I need that audiophile 2496, and the DMP3! Not to mention that Sennheiser 421... and a better vocal mic, and a new guitar... and a sans amp or a mesa...and some realtraps...and a fostex fd8...and.........ad nauseum
 
i just checked on the web. it looks like around 88 bucks.
the lates version is 2005 band ion a box.
just check with people like music123.com and zzounds.com.
from what i saw the 2004 version is around 65 bucks.
youll get way way more out of it by a thousand miles than just canned drums. ive seen folks do amazing stuff with it in every genre of music.
heres the pricing link/info i found...
http://www.powertracks.com/bandbox.htm
 
Is there anyplace that might carry it cheaper than the links you've posted?
 
the best thing cellar is to try the demo. then decide on any additional styles you need then go shopping on google.
you have to try it to realise the full power it puts in your hands.
without doing anything, i would spend an hour on the pg site going thru all the on line video tutorials and FAQ's - then youll be in a much better position. its just so extensive , what you can do with it.
i think about the best your going to do is around 65 bucks from what i see.
here are some third party add on links for it. theres tons of third party support....
third party products....other biab links/webring

http://biab.8m.com/
http://www.nortonmusic.com/
http://www.kuzmich.com/band-in-a-box3.html
http://www.meister.u-net.com/dixie/band_in_a_box_songs.htm
http://a.webring.com/hub?ring=bandinaboxusers
http://www.jazzguitarfaq.com/FAQ00018.htm
http://www.genlink.org/bb/
http://www.menc.org/publication/articles/academic/genmusarticle/howoneclass.html
http://www.aei.ca/~denisl/link_ang.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/music/harmonica/biablinks.html
pg musicians web site...
http://www.russell-demussel.be/index.html
if you come up with unique styles like some of the above , maybe you could in the future even make some money. i hear - some people have done rather well doing add ons.
 
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