How to achieve "pumping" mix?

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Pykon said:
But I'm a Sonar7-man...
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What do the on-line help files within the program itself tell you? Do a help file search for "chain" or "sidechain" or "side chain". If you get zero results, then it probably will not do sidechaining. Otherwise, it'll explain how to do it in there.

RTFOH ;)

G.
 
Pykon said:
That's jus what I was thinkin' about, man!

And it looks like a natural kick drum sample is not the best idea to be used as triggering track for mains' compressor. It's rather an synthetic, artificial-something, like VST sample - and that explains how house mix can contain pumping compression "overtaking" kick drum. Triggering track can be moved backwards a frame or two and this way compressor turns on before a real drum kick we can hear. I'll try that.
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Yup, that's exactly it. Try using an 808 or 909 sample. You're right the synthetic samples work much better than acoustic kicks. You can even synthesize your own kick for the purpose and really tailor it's envelope to meet your needs. And yes, by moving the samples backward in time will allow you to duck things before the main kicks hit thus increasing their impact (which was the original intent of this technique in the first place).
 
Waffleness said:
I would be suprised if a program as capable as sonar couldn't sidechain a simple compressor
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Well, seems like I've missed the point a little.

Of course sidechaining is possible in Sonar 7 and I use it quite axtensively, mainly on bass lines when a kick comes in. This simple technique - which you know for sure - allows me not to equalize bass line from low end frequencies to make room for kick.

But you've written something suggesting me that it's possible to side-chain adjust the threshold value or compression-ratio, which I understand you right is not the case. On Sonitus compressor's panel it seems like threshold remains unchanged, whule compressor's engine gets trigerring message from sidechain instead of processed signal input.

Some terms are misleading. Sometimes :-)
 
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