How many of you...

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reverse the phase on your kick mics when your overheads are on the other side?
 
I always look at all the drum tracks in an editor and either flip phase on a track if it's 180 degrees out of phase or drag tracks into phase allignment.
 
I do.It seems to cut down the bleed of the other mics on the kit and brings the punchines of the kick out towards the mix a little and isolates it from the higher frequencies.

Monty,
 
Well, I was just wondering how many people make it standard practice. The same principal of reversing phase should apply here just as it does to double mic'ing a snare and I would think more people would do it or try it.
 
I only reverse phase if I actually hear a problem.

Bruce
 
I have mics in the kick and usually have one outside on the beater as well and the mic inside the shell will always be 180 out with the one outside.
 
completely depends on your mic placement, if they are in- or out of phase
 
...not to mention whether or not your cable's pin assignments are wired correctly!
 
Hey Bruce, are you EVER gonna try those opamps out?
Geeeeeeeezzzzzzzz..... ;)
 
Why would 180' necessarily help any more than hurt the tone? What you'r looking for is a 90' change. :)
The sound is radiating in all directions out from the kit, the overs get the top of the picture. A mic out in front of the kick would get that view. Would you still want to switch phase on a close kick mic? I could see playing with track time alignment being more flexible.

One thing I haven't tried would be to reverse all the top and over' mics to get positive phase hits from all the drums comming from the speakers for more impact. ...but then the kick's hits, the only one typicaly miced from "the the other side" would be sucking the speakers IN... oh well. :)
peace
 
Hey, wait a minute! I just re-read Monty's post:

I do.It seems to cut down the bleed of the other mics on the kit
and brings the punchines of the kick out towards the mix a little and isolates it from the higher frequencies.

This could be an unexpected good reason to swap it;
isolation due to phase cancellation.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
I only reverse phase if I actually hear a problem.

Bruce
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Same here. But I use the phase-inv. button quite a lot. There can always be some problem that you are not aware of until you've tried to fix it. Did that make any sence?
 
If you have problems like that, the first thing to do is correct them when tracking.... focus on better microphone placement
 
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