
Chili
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Closed. I might open it later.... if I remember.
1 beer + 1 beer = 2 beers?????
Perhaps my thought process is not deep enough to comprehend the esoteric nature of this argument - but arguing that one plus one does not equal two seems to be such a waste of time and effort. Certainly you folks can hi-jack this or any other thread for your personal spats - but why turn what in theory could be a positive, cooperative, informative web site into an endless bitch fight.
I try very hard to make all my posts positive and hopefully helpful - and I know I will regret I even bothered to compromise my personal intergity to post this reply - but My God you people need to take a break and count to 10 (in the abstract that would be 5+5)
Closed. I might open it later.... if I remember.
1 beer + 1 beer = 2 beers?????
Perhaps my thought process is not deep enough to comprehend the esoteric nature of this argument - but arguing that one plus one does not equal two seems to be such a waste of time and effort. Certainly you folks can hi-jack this or any other thread for your personal spats - but why turn what in theory could be a positive, cooperative, informative web site into an endless bitch fight.
I try very hard to make all my posts positive and hopefully helpful - and I know I will regret I even bothered to compromise my personal intergity to post this reply - but My God you people need to take a break and count to 10 (in the abstract that would be 5+5)
Which quote of Xdrummer are you referring to ? I don't see any drivel he's written.why would you even waste the man's time with this drivel? xdrummer, I'm talking to you.
There are a lot of patterns to songwriting that are good to know.
Agreed. I met Chuck Cannon at a songwriters convention and he said the same thing. He went through all the songs that ever made the top ten list for sales, or billboard pop charts or something, and compared them; looking for commonalities. They were many. I forget most, but hard rhymes was one. Very little near rhymes were used. Switching rhyming schemes between verse and chorus was another... ie Verse = AABB, Chorus = ABAB.... Always switch 'em up.
Another one was time. Always between 3 1/2 minutes and 4 minutes. But we've heard that pattern/rule so many times already.
Agreed. Formulas, guidelines, patterns. I think the general listening populace has an expectation of how songs should go. Songwriters who drive in those ruts would probably get more listens.I think when people describe a song as sounding "formulaic", they're thinking of formulas like those.
As far as the topic, does subject matter? Yes and no. Some people like to listen and contemplate on the lyrics. Others couldn't care less. I try to write songs so those who like to pull meaning from the lyrics, or hear a story, have something substantial to listen to. Yet, for myself, I couldn't care less what the lyrics say and don't pay much attention to the words in other peoples' songs. But I like how the words add to the performance. Sometimes the right word with the right melody can really make a song work.
I agree with your former bandmates.........to an extent. Many bands never get beyond that third album where they can do whatever they want thereafter. Three years is a long time to have to compromise what may be an integral part of oneself and keep knocking out stuff one may not fully believe in.I wanted to go along with the contract on the "it's only three albums in three years and then we can do whatever we want" argument, but I lost.