How hot should the track be recorded?

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if your bass is only half loud and your monitors can't hanlde it then turn your monitors down.

having said that, are you looking at peak meters or RMS meters because Sonar has both, but i can't remember if Cwp9 does.

i record with the peak meters and mix with both peak and
RMS.
 
Bass is one of the easiest instruments to record, so if your monitors can't handle your levels, then something needs turning down:)
 
moskus said:
Well, you can put the Spectrum Analyzer in one of the Virtual Mains. That way you can get the whole song, and solo the tracks you want (if you want to look at one or more independently)...
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I tried to insert the Analyzer in Virtual Mains (isn't it the one in the lower part of the track view hidden, and labeled 'A' ?) but seems like I'm not getting what I'm suppose to get. Or may be I don't know how to interpret the metters. What Spectrum Analyzer plugin are you using? I'm using C_Fft. (And hhhh.....how do you use it? :D Gulpppp!!!)
 
Yeah, I insert the Spectrum Analyzer in the Virtual Mains "A"-bus ('cause that's what I mostly use for playback). Then you'll see it allright...
 

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moskus said:
Yeah, I insert the Spectrum Analyzer in the Virtual Mains "A"-bus ('cause that's what I mostly use for playback). Then you'll see it allright...
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Thanks. That's what I got too. May be I need to learn how to correctly interpret the meter then. Some signals spread almost evenly from Low to Hi (from left to right) so I don't know what to do with them.

ALso, I notice you're using super stereo. I tried it on the vocal. It sounds so wonderful if I play it back solo. The vocal seems to come from every where (Without it the vocal is at dead center). Cool! But when I play with all the rest I can only hear the vocal either left or right depending on how I added the effect. Boucing the track doesn't help either. Any idea?
 
4ever said:


Thanks. That's what I got too. May be I need to learn how to correctly interpret the meter then. Some signals spread almost evenly from Low to Hi (from left to right) so I don't know what to do with them.
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. Don't base yourself that you can "see" what's wrong with your mix, but it can give you an idea on what's wrong. But in the end, it all comes down to your ears. Does it sound right? Yes? Then leave it... No? Then tweak it some more... This comes with experience and takes a LOT of time!

4ever said:
ALso, I notice you're using super stereo. I tried it on the vocal. It sounds so wonderful if I play it back solo. The vocal seems to come from every where (Without it the vocal is at dead center). Cool! But when I play with all the rest I can only hear the vocal either left or right depending on how I added the effect. Boucing the track doesn't help either. Any idea?
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Try using Cakewalks FxChorus instead and choose the "Big Stereo Spread"-preset. Work further with the effect from there... Sometimes that effect you want works, other times it don't...
 
James- can you define for me

James Argo said:
Try to use this general settings:

Drums:

+9 dB LF

-12 dB MF at 400

+6 dB HF

Rhythm Guitar 1 (Cleanest)

+3 dB LF

+6 dB MF at 2.5 kHz

Rhythm Guitar 2

+1.5 dB LF

+6 dB MF at 4.0 kHz

+1.5 dB HF

Lead Guitar

+6 dB MF at 5 kHz

+3 dB HF

Lead Vocal

+3 dB MF at 3.5 kHz

+3 dB HF

Background Vocals

+1.5 dB LF

-6 dB MF at 3 kHz

+3 dB HF

Bass Guitar

+2 dB LF

+4 dB MF at 400 Hz

If there's two hot tracks pumping SAME FREQUENCY (also called Masking) it generate peak couple db higher than their both original. Say soloed track 1 pumping 3 db about 600Hz, and soloed track 2 also. When both being played together, it can pump ~ 7db in 600Hz, instead of 3 db. This way you should wisely use Eq. Instead of using peak level monitor, you better use spectrum analyzer for analyzing each tracks. See what tracks mainly pumping below 200Hz, what's in the lo mid range, what's in hi mid, and what's above hi freq. The art of recording is not only how to record your instrument/vocals. First you must know WHY they should be recorded, and what for they are recorded.
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James-
can you tell me what the +2 and LF, MF, etc mean in this?
I mean whats Plus, minus , and what do the LF,MF,HF mean?

Thanks
 
Please don't respond to old threads... we don't remember them anyway. ;)



LF: Low frequensy
MF: Middle frequensy
HF: High frequensy

"+2 dB". Set the EQ to +2 dB ;)
 
got it . I didn't want to freak him out by seemingly quoting him from out of nowhere !
thanks
 
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