How does this correlate to MR8?

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Unity on an MR8 fader would be? Centered?
How does this translate to my little MR8 world?

Fader/etc. thread

I didn't want to chime in with the big guys... :o
 
ummkay...

Noone? :confused:
ookey dokey. :(

Sooooo, would the "trim" be considered the "fader" with the MR8, and if so... where the bloody hell would unity be?
 
cellardweller said:
Noone? :confused:
ookey dokey. :(

Sooooo, would the "trim" be considered the "fader" with the MR8, and if so... where the bloody hell would unity be?
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Cellar,
hey the "trim" on the MR-8 is the controls on your input A and B. Unity on the faders is when you slide them up to the multiple hash marks. This answer your question?
L8r,
Eddie
 
Yea, it give the answer I suspected. Sometimes I talk (or type) only to hear myself it seems....

Very good to have you back(BTW)! :D
 
cellardweller said:
Yea, it give the answer I suspected. Sometimes I talk (or type) only to hear myself it seems....

Very good to have you back(BTW)! :D
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Yeah, the skin is a bit thicker, and the shitload of problems I was having are fixed. I'll just stay out of the cave for a bit.... And if you want to talk just to hear your own voice, it's Ok as long as you don't start answering. That's when the guys with the big white coats show up to take you to a little padded room..... :D
 
unity

on a mixer is o db on the slider or the gain pot.... like rocket said the center of the hashmakes would be o o the slider i guess????
 
dave in toledo said:
on a mixer is o db on the slider or the gain pot.... like rocket said the center of the hashmakes would be o o the slider i guess????
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That is correct, Dave. When you center the hash marks, the signal peaks at 0db on the digital meter. It may be off a hair or two (I don't trust digital meters much, I guess), but it's pretty close. Besides, that's what the handy written in "English is my second or third language" owner's manual recommends.... ;)
 
Oh yeah, hash marks... I had 'em on my fingers once, and I washed my hands, and I....

Seriously though, did you guys look at that thread?
To quote the immortal and wise Jack-The-Pumpkin-King "What does it mean, what does it mean..."

I guess the difference between the two approaches is EXPERIENCE.

1) "optimized" digital level > rounding errors by changing the level in the mix.
2) recording at unity "unoptimized" level > no rounding errors as levels are
already set.

Optimization is a bad word to be using in this discussion, that's why they're in quotation above.

Approach 1) is the safe & long road for newbies like me....
Approach 2) is the risky & short road for those like Fletcher who have the experience.

Getting from approach 1) to 2), while not easy, is a great goal to shoot for.
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When I record my tracks on MR8, and put them in Ntrack, my faders should be at unity? Seems it'd be clipping the HELL out of things... I know I've run into this question before, how do you know when individual tracks (in n track) have their faders positioned too high??? Do you get me? Is there any detrimental effect that the fader can have at mixdown, if it is too high? The tracks already recorded, right? I can't peak it now, can I?

*arghhhh edit* just realized how detail weak that question was...

Okay I:

  1. record to MR8, levels high as possible without clipping. Play/sing sample track to make sure of no clipping.
  2. Transfer to N tracks
  3. adjust levels with faders to equal out mix

So when/where does the master channel vol. (In N-track) figure into this?

Please enlighten my darkness, oh masters of the red box, and the Tracks of N
 
OK, bear with me, I hope I can explain this. You set the master level in ntracks to 0bd, then you can adjust the other tracks for the mix. If needed, you can come down on the master fader, but it's best to leave it at 0db and adjust your track levels instead. This will eliminate the white noise when you burn it to CD and normalize it to redbook standard. Did I confuse you? Yeah, me too....
 
If you recorded everything in the little red box correctly, it should come out well on the pc. Keep an eye on your levels. It's better to be below 0db too, to give yourself some head room when you are mixing. You can always add, but you can't really take away volume once it's been recorded...
 
unity

its a nice clean way of getting proper gain structure, optimum output, no noise, its what ive been preaching all along,
get the mixer levels set to unity, make shure there is no clipping, bring mixer level up to where it starts to clip and back it down, do the same with the trim on the mr8,
i set up a live pa the same way, and adjust from unity,

gain pots on 0, sliders for channels on 0, main and monitor sliders to 0, adjust attunators up to desired level on amplifier....

tweek as needd
system running at unity uses the most out of available power also....
 
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