How does everyone use CEP/Audition...recording, mixing, and/or editing?

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I have Cool Edit Pro 2.0 and have been using it on occasion with Sonar for editing audio. I like the per track eq, which my sonar 2.2 does not have. How is everyone using their Cool Edit/ Audition?
 
I used to run Sonar 2.2XL for tracking/mixing, (at 24/44.1), and use CEP 2.1 in Sonar's "tools" menu for detailed editing of individual tracks, then when finished with my mixdown I would use CEP 2.1 for my "home" mastering and file conversions to 16 bit for CD burning, and also to mp3 if needed.

I had never been able to setup CEP to give me the kind of track counts that I could easily get with Sonar, I've tried all kinds of buffer size and number of buffer adjustments, plus when I move a control in CEP it has around a one second delay before I hear the change take place in the audio, it would choke on projects with more than around 10 to 12 tracks at 32/44.1, where in Sonar 2.2XL, I could easily run many more tracks at 24/44.1 without everything getting screwy on me.

CEP's lack of "true" aux busses was also a big issue to me, in Sonar I like to use a basic setup with my primary reverb on aux 1, my primary delay on aux 2, and a chorus on aux 3, along with aux 4 being available to generate a seperate headphone mix for overdubbing if required, this is way out of CEP's league.

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With Sonar, you can setup the default configuration any way you like, and every time you open the program, your customized setup come up.

I had mine setup with 14 audio tracks, 4 auxes, and a single main output, which is exactly what will fit on a monitor running at 1024x768 resolution (console view), I would only add a second output if I needed to use aux 4 as a headphone send.

Each of my audio tracks had the 4 band parametric EQ already patched into the effects bin, the EQ would be already setup in my standard way, and turned off, so I effectively had a per channel EQ. (EQ setup like this, (1)Lo Shelf at 100 hz, (2)Peak at 1000 hz, (3)Peak at 4000 hz, (4)Hi Shelf at 10k, all set flat)

Aux 1 - Reverb, Aux 2 - Delay, Aux 3 - Chorus, Aux 4 - Empty, all of these effects would be already setup in my basic starting configurations and turned off, (turned off in the effects bin, not in the plugins themselves, that way you don't have to open the plugin to turn them on, same with the channel EQ's).

After getting Sonar setup the way you would like it to be for a default starting point, click on the file menu, select "save as", then save it in the Sonar Sample content folder as "Normal.cwt" without the quotation marks, it will tell you that this file already exists, and do you want to overwrite it? click yes, then close Sonar and reopen it, it will now open just as you set it up.

Adding more tracks is easy, just go to the track view and select an empty track that's already configured, right click in the track label bar and select "clone track" and then enter how many you want to add, then you will have to change the track numbers because they will all be the same as the "cloned" track. This is how I do the basic setup for the default configuration, start with an empty project, add one audio track, set it up the way you want , then clone it 13 more times.
 
I now have Audition 1.5. Habit and some unfinished projects, keeps me working in Sonar2 for multitracking, but I admire the simpler layout of the CEP/Audition multitrack - it's the lack of midi editing/softsynths that stops me using it at the moment. Having said that, I don't exactly love Sonars midi environment, but what can you do?

As an Audio Editor, CEP/Audition never fails to please me. I only wish I knew more about it (there's fascinating stuff "under the hood"). The real beauty of it though, is that the interface lets you do all the basic stuff without having to spend too much time learning - Intuitive is the word.

The future could well be more interesting. If Audition2.0 has ASIO support and input monitoring, then things will be different, although if they really do want to challenge the likes of Sonar and Cubase, they will have to do Midi.
At least they would have the advantage of a clean slate. Sonars midi is definately a mess, baggage from earlier versions and too much developement effort spent on the audio side in my opinion.
 
I use Audition 1.5 for editing classical concerts recorded on location for later broadcast on our City's FM classical station. The original recordings are direct to CD, so it's a matter of ripping the CD into the PC (the work of a moment of course these days) into a single file, which then is inserted in the multitrack. Then it's tidied up by removing any unnecessary delays between movements, tuning, people going on and off stage, and that sort of thing. Appropriate treatment of the sound comes largely from Audition's reverb and amplitude effects - often noise reduction too, usually due to noisy airconditioning or lighting systems. Each work and movement is track marked, and identified with cue labels for subsequent translation to CD Text and also to the jewel case insert. Then it's mixed down and burned to CD with Nero via CueListTool.

Now I've got the extra tools in version 1.5 such as frequency space editing and centre channel extraction, I can repair noises or rebalance the stereo original in ways not previously possible - or even imaginable!
 
I record, edit, assemble & mix in Adobe Audition. I record largely acoustic music and seldom get up to 20 tracks. I like the fact that, after 4 years of CEP & AA, I know my way around a little, and I know that there's a lot more in the box than I've gotten out of it so far.
 
I use it to record my home demos start to finish, with "finish" being to mp3 samples on my website. I haven't tackled trying to record an album of myself.
 
How I use CEP

This program is oh so close to being my favorite program. The biggest "geez, I wish they had" for me is "on the fly" punch in. If its available, I haven't been able to find it. Having to highlight the section you want to punch at is just not practical in most cases for me. Using the 10 key or the "R" key or something like that would of been ideal. But the editing of wav files is just the most intuitive, easy on the brain, tools-o-plenty editing for all your common editing needs. I use it to record some multi-tracking at home, but use Pro Tools LE at the studio. CEP is to DAWs what the ASR-10 was to keyboards back in its primetime (as far as user-friendliness goes). I hate Sonar and every Cakewalk DAW I ever tried to learn. For some reason we just cant see eye-to-eye. In my opinion, their GUI's are not familiar to me as far as relating them to a traditional hardware setup. CEP and Pro Tools LE are great in that respect.
 
With 1.5 comes my perfect recording app. Sleepwalk-easy tracking, mixing, and mastering, and awesome metering compared to other programs I've used.

And now with Rewire, I can use Reason directly within it, instead of tediously mixing down each Reason track.

With VST effects, I plan to tinker with FX Teleport, once I get another, older box back up and running.

It's stable as a rock for me under both an Intel-based laptop and a AMD/Via based desktop.

And since I am just barely still a student (graduate in October) I can get AA for $150 through Journeyed.com.

I love it.
 
Damn program can't cook me dinner right now, can it??? HUH???? HUH??? ---Lee :mad: :rolleyes: :D
 
I've used Cool Edit Pro for several years but never really got into multitracking until this year....(bought a MOTU 2408)...

I've always thought CEP was easy to use...I have a copy of Cubase 2.0 and I find it confusing...

Now with Audition 1.5.....I have the VST a working..

I like it awlawt!
 
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