drstawl
Banned
Maybe they just read their cable user agreement.HangDawg said:
Mine specifically sez they will toss my ass to the curb should they ever find I have set up a server using their network.
Mine specifically sez they will toss my ass to the curb should they ever find I have set up a server using their network.
Jeff_D
New member
YEah - they probably all say that Doc- My freinds web server quit wrokin a while back - damnest thing- couldnt figure it out- finally figured out that his ISP had blocked all inbound traffic on port 80 for all of thier users (an attempt to shut down rouge unauthorized servers)- so a request wouldnt make it to his server. Not that big a deal though- he rerouted to a diff port and things are back and workin. There's always ways around.
Heres another good site-
http://www.noip.com/
enjoy
Heres another good site-
http://www.noip.com/
enjoy
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sae
New member
They put clauses like that in the contract so that they don't have huge bandwidth issues. If your server doesn't generate much traffic (which you won't unless you have lots of people coming and streaming mp3's etc)
You aren't supposed to do it, but I mean, a small web server will use up LESS bandwidth than someone that likes Kazaa, etc.
You aren't supposed to do it, but I mean, a small web server will use up LESS bandwidth than someone that likes Kazaa, etc.
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fldrummer
New member
I'm on cable and kinda had a server on here once. W/ road runner the max upload limit is 45kb/s which suxs!! Their where about 50 people on it at once and I couldnt do anything on any computers on my LAN. My upload bandwith was at about 1-2kb/s then.
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sae
New member
wow, that's horrible upload man!
HangDawg
bUnGhOlIo
drstawl said:Maybe they just read their cable user agreement.
Mine specifically sez they will toss my ass to the curb should they ever find I have set up a server using their network.
Ahhhh so paranoid it is then.
Simman
Well-known member
Cable Provider
First, most cable companies will provide (for free) a minimal amount (~25M) of space for you to use as a web site/ftp site. Unfortunately, no one using a search engine will find it because of the addressing, i.e., http://~home.cablecompany.net/your website.
Second, if you set up a stand-alone server you should get a cable router (not very expensive) and put your FTP/web server on a DMZ to keep any potential intruders off your internal network. I would not recommend running a web site on the same PC you use for everything else. Network security is a big issue these days; however, if your web site gets hacked it will only cause you minor problems (e.g., web site goes down). You should never host anything of great importance on your web server anyhow.
My 2 Cents.
First, most cable companies will provide (for free) a minimal amount (~25M) of space for you to use as a web site/ftp site. Unfortunately, no one using a search engine will find it because of the addressing, i.e., http://~home.cablecompany.net/your website.
Second, if you set up a stand-alone server you should get a cable router (not very expensive) and put your FTP/web server on a DMZ to keep any potential intruders off your internal network. I would not recommend running a web site on the same PC you use for everything else. Network security is a big issue these days; however, if your web site gets hacked it will only cause you minor problems (e.g., web site goes down). You should never host anything of great importance on your web server anyhow.
My 2 Cents.
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sae
New member
Your website will still show up in search engines. Your address has nothing to do with it. It has to do with registering your url with search engines (www.dmoz.org is a really good place) and having your keywords done up right.
I would not run my server on a dmz, that is a very bad idea, unless your server has it's own firewall. Why not rather forward port 80 from your router to your server. that way you have 2 firewalls?
Another thing to note about getting hacked is that if your domain is used for a DOS or email spam, your domain will be on "the list" which means you could be charged.
I would not run my server on a dmz, that is a very bad idea, unless your server has it's own firewall. Why not rather forward port 80 from your router to your server. that way you have 2 firewalls?
Another thing to note about getting hacked is that if your domain is used for a DOS or email spam, your domain will be on "the list" which means you could be charged.
HangDawg
bUnGhOlIo
Ah, maybe you guys are right. The Internet is way to dangerous a place. Maybe we should all just stay away from any computer that has access to it. Better yet, just get rid of all PC's. Then we'll be safe. Yep, that's the ticket.
trogdor
New member
Just to make sure I have this clear...
So I can install TWO network cards in the server PC, plug one into the modem and the other into my main PC?
Which would essentially put my main PC on my "network"?
So I can install TWO network cards in the server PC, plug one into the modem and the other into my main PC?
Which would essentially put my main PC on my "network"?
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sae
New member
yes, then your server is acting as a router also. You would need to install internet connection sharing (ICS) in microshaft, or install the router version of clark connect. Whatever you do make sure you have a good firewall
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bgavin
New member
Yes, you're correct.HangDawg said:
I always ignore chickenshit work-around solutions such as dynamic DNS. This comes from spending the last 30 years in the industry as an IT engineer.
As pointed out above, when the cable folks find your server (and they will), they will indeed kick you to the curb. Cable is a "party line" technology, where DSL is a private circuit. When your server traffic turns that cable segment into slug-bait, they will find you and boot you.
trogdor
New member
One more question...
It looks like I might be able to get away with just putting one card in my server...
My cable modem has a USB interface as well as the regular cat 5e cable...
My question is would my performance (connection speed) suffer by using the usb connection to my cable modem instead of the standard one?
It looks like I might be able to get away with just putting one card in my server...
My cable modem has a USB interface as well as the regular cat 5e cable...
My question is would my performance (connection speed) suffer by using the usb connection to my cable modem instead of the standard one?
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sae
New member
I believe that a usb connection to the internet will do just fine. It should be able to handle the traffic no problem.
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earthcub
This space is inhabited
Trogdor:
I just caught this thread and I've tried to skim enough to give some info/help. I wasn't able to determine if you are going to the WinXP or Linux route but in either case... I've run different setups to achieve something similar to you and I'll explain a couple of things I've done.
On Win2K
1) I used to use and still do recommend having a NIC card that also acts as a hub. Initio is the manufacturer of a card that I have. One port is used to connect to my DSL modem, the other ports are used to connect to other PCs on my network. Very easy to set up.
2) Obviously, you need your domain. I've been using godaddy.com to act as my registrar for the last 4 years. $8.95 a year to handle your domain name registration and notify you when you need to update. When you register, you'll need to provide a secondary DNS. This is what is used as a backup in case your server is down, requests for your domain will be redirected to another server somewhere is backup. To handle requests on your own computer, you need to set up a DNS file if you're going to run a server OS. In Win2k server, that would be a file stored in this location: C:\WINNT\system32\dns. There's a lot of information on setting up DNS at http://support.microsoft.com/.
3) I've used DSL for a long time for my web site. I don't get tons of traffic and I run my email server: Mdaemon: http://www.altn.com/ Works really well. The downside that I've found to try hosting yourself is that the software costs money that although isn't REALLY expensive, may not save you a lot of money unless you try to go the Linux route. The BIG thing though is that the 128kbs upspeed that I get is incredibly slow for trying to stream mp3's of my own music which I find incredibly annoying. People that try to listen to my music invariably have to download the songs because my upload speed is incapable of streaming to anyone. Its kind of a drag for those people that are not REALLY computer savvy. I've gotten quite a few emails from people saying that they can't get the files, songs are cutting out while they're trying to listen to them, etc. So, I've been looking into keeping my website up and putting my music in another location where it can be streamed. Now that mp3.com is offline (for who knows how long) I've been strongly considering garageband.com. They have a pretty good deal on lifetime hosting. They will give your band a home page that also will give info to your gigs, etc. The site is run by employees as it was resurrected from the dot.com dead. I have some inside info that makes my believe that it will be around for a long time and I think what they're doing is really cool. http://www.garageband.com
4) On another note, if you're going to set up a server on a Win machine, I strongly suggest looking for PHPTriad. You can probably find it at http://www.php.net. Easily sets up your server, a database, and a php interpreter on your system. Its so easy to set up and you can easily do upgrades from there on each component. I highly recommend that if you go for Linux, you still consider this combination. You will invariably want to set up some dynamic something or other to handle a forum or guestbook etc., and PHP is way easier to learn and handle than PERL. Plus there are lots of books out on the market to guide you down this path.
I think that's it. I hope something in here helps you.
Peace
earthcub
http://www.rhythma.com
I just caught this thread and I've tried to skim enough to give some info/help. I wasn't able to determine if you are going to the WinXP or Linux route but in either case... I've run different setups to achieve something similar to you and I'll explain a couple of things I've done.
On Win2K
1) I used to use and still do recommend having a NIC card that also acts as a hub. Initio is the manufacturer of a card that I have. One port is used to connect to my DSL modem, the other ports are used to connect to other PCs on my network. Very easy to set up.
2) Obviously, you need your domain. I've been using godaddy.com to act as my registrar for the last 4 years. $8.95 a year to handle your domain name registration and notify you when you need to update. When you register, you'll need to provide a secondary DNS. This is what is used as a backup in case your server is down, requests for your domain will be redirected to another server somewhere is backup. To handle requests on your own computer, you need to set up a DNS file if you're going to run a server OS. In Win2k server, that would be a file stored in this location: C:\WINNT\system32\dns. There's a lot of information on setting up DNS at http://support.microsoft.com/.
3) I've used DSL for a long time for my web site. I don't get tons of traffic and I run my email server: Mdaemon: http://www.altn.com/ Works really well. The downside that I've found to try hosting yourself is that the software costs money that although isn't REALLY expensive, may not save you a lot of money unless you try to go the Linux route. The BIG thing though is that the 128kbs upspeed that I get is incredibly slow for trying to stream mp3's of my own music which I find incredibly annoying. People that try to listen to my music invariably have to download the songs because my upload speed is incapable of streaming to anyone. Its kind of a drag for those people that are not REALLY computer savvy. I've gotten quite a few emails from people saying that they can't get the files, songs are cutting out while they're trying to listen to them, etc. So, I've been looking into keeping my website up and putting my music in another location where it can be streamed. Now that mp3.com is offline (for who knows how long) I've been strongly considering garageband.com. They have a pretty good deal on lifetime hosting. They will give your band a home page that also will give info to your gigs, etc. The site is run by employees as it was resurrected from the dot.com dead. I have some inside info that makes my believe that it will be around for a long time and I think what they're doing is really cool. http://www.garageband.com
4) On another note, if you're going to set up a server on a Win machine, I strongly suggest looking for PHPTriad. You can probably find it at http://www.php.net. Easily sets up your server, a database, and a php interpreter on your system. Its so easy to set up and you can easily do upgrades from there on each component. I highly recommend that if you go for Linux, you still consider this combination. You will invariably want to set up some dynamic something or other to handle a forum or guestbook etc., and PHP is way easier to learn and handle than PERL. Plus there are lots of books out on the market to guide you down this path.
I think that's it. I hope something in here helps you.
Peace
earthcub
http://www.rhythma.com
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sae
New member
If you use clarkconnect it already has php installed. Just to let you know.