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DavidK
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Bdgr, I have....ummmm .... something in my eye......
Great post dude. I literally felt I was in a time machine.
I remember those days so well. Holy Jesus, that was twenty years ago! I remember my sequential Circuits Six-trak, my poly-800 with 256 note sequencer, my mini-moog, radio shack mixer, Fostex 4 track ( I had a badass one, I was the shit), Digitech delay stompbox.
When I discovered midi, my life was never the same again. When I got my Alesis midiverb, I think I did a cumshot.
Oh man, my Yamaha drum machine, my qx21 sequencer, my fb40 tone module. God I miss that stuff. Now I have SONAR, Waves native bundle, wavelab, tons of instruments, a violin that costs as much as a small house,but:
I would trade it all to go back again and have the enthusiasm I used to have for those great toys.
I must now change my depends undergarments.
"YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN"= funniest thing I have read here in ages. Oh so true...
Great post dude. I literally felt I was in a time machine.
I remember those days so well. Holy Jesus, that was twenty years ago! I remember my sequential Circuits Six-trak, my poly-800 with 256 note sequencer, my mini-moog, radio shack mixer, Fostex 4 track ( I had a badass one, I was the shit), Digitech delay stompbox.
When I discovered midi, my life was never the same again. When I got my Alesis midiverb, I think I did a cumshot.
Oh man, my Yamaha drum machine, my qx21 sequencer, my fb40 tone module. God I miss that stuff. Now I have SONAR, Waves native bundle, wavelab, tons of instruments, a violin that costs as much as a small house,but:
I would trade it all to go back again and have the enthusiasm I used to have for those great toys.
I must now change my depends undergarments.
"YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN"= funniest thing I have read here in ages. Oh so true...
Badger
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Yeah...the fun we use to have with such primative gear.
My first setup for music was a Moog Micromoog, and a 100 year old french made violin with a dearmond pickup that attached with a little arm thingy off the tailpiece and acted as a contact microphone(and feedback was incredable). I finally put a barcus berry bridge on it.. I used to drool over the alverez electrics they had at the music store, and barcus berry 5 string the Jean Luc played. I listened to imaginary voyage over and over, and Micks solo on the full version of roll over beetoven bye ELO. I then discovered that when you ran your abortion of a homemade electric violin through the filter banks of a micromoog, and a flanger, and a super big muff distorer/compressor, and a memory man, and a crybaby, and turned it all on at once, that no body would talk to you, much less let you play in thier band.
So I sold my violin to my great aunt(who when she dies I am hoping to get it back). I havent played violin in almost 20 years, I miss it so...I kept the moog and got the aforementioned Jaguar and a Korg DW6000...
The enthusiasm. I miss that the most. If I had the setup I have now, then, I would never leave home...like some pathetic musical D&D freak who works at the comic book store and lives in his parents basement(if they had basements in texas..which they dont) The sheer newness of it all, the exploration....Sorta like when I first met Mrs. Bdgr and spent every waking moment with her...the experimentation, and obsession with figuring out how rick wakeman got the cool choir sound in the halleluia chorus in excerpts from the six wives of henry the viii(I assume now it was a melotron) I miss it as well. but now there are mortgage payments to make, yardwork to keep up with, children to parent, and a wife to piss off....being an adult sucks....
I had a Sequential six track, and one of those radio shack 100 watt powered mixer/amps.....Hey, it worked. I got to play a poly 800, and an 800II, and the poly 61...It introduced me to the joys of arpegiators....Never owned those, but I wanted them. Remember seeing the Akai AX80 in the music store for first time? with that big knob and all those bar graphs across the front? Damn it still looks impressive(I still have one too)...
My first home studio:
My prophet t8, sequential drumtracks(with matching wood sides!), going into my Ross 4x4, and a shure unisphere. For sequencing, a MPU401 compatible card stuck off in a compaq sewing machine (lift with your knees, not your back) running dos and cakewalk version1.something or other. I still have the computer and the card, and maybe even that version of cakewalk. It pre-dates standard midi files IIRC.
Ever open up sequential gear and read all the silk screen messages? My T8 had all the occilators circuits marked phaser banks on the board....and the drum machine had "may peace prevail on earth" somewhere in it....sniff....
And get this, children...if you wanted to change the sounds in the drumtracks, you have to pull the roms out of thier zif sockets and pop in new ones...
My first setup for music was a Moog Micromoog, and a 100 year old french made violin with a dearmond pickup that attached with a little arm thingy off the tailpiece and acted as a contact microphone(and feedback was incredable). I finally put a barcus berry bridge on it.. I used to drool over the alverez electrics they had at the music store, and barcus berry 5 string the Jean Luc played. I listened to imaginary voyage over and over, and Micks solo on the full version of roll over beetoven bye ELO. I then discovered that when you ran your abortion of a homemade electric violin through the filter banks of a micromoog, and a flanger, and a super big muff distorer/compressor, and a memory man, and a crybaby, and turned it all on at once, that no body would talk to you, much less let you play in thier band.
So I sold my violin to my great aunt(who when she dies I am hoping to get it back). I havent played violin in almost 20 years, I miss it so...I kept the moog and got the aforementioned Jaguar and a Korg DW6000...
The enthusiasm. I miss that the most. If I had the setup I have now, then, I would never leave home...like some pathetic musical D&D freak who works at the comic book store and lives in his parents basement(if they had basements in texas..which they dont) The sheer newness of it all, the exploration....Sorta like when I first met Mrs. Bdgr and spent every waking moment with her...the experimentation, and obsession with figuring out how rick wakeman got the cool choir sound in the halleluia chorus in excerpts from the six wives of henry the viii(I assume now it was a melotron) I miss it as well. but now there are mortgage payments to make, yardwork to keep up with, children to parent, and a wife to piss off....being an adult sucks....
I had a Sequential six track, and one of those radio shack 100 watt powered mixer/amps.....Hey, it worked. I got to play a poly 800, and an 800II, and the poly 61...It introduced me to the joys of arpegiators....Never owned those, but I wanted them. Remember seeing the Akai AX80 in the music store for first time? with that big knob and all those bar graphs across the front? Damn it still looks impressive(I still have one too)...
My first home studio:
My prophet t8, sequential drumtracks(with matching wood sides!), going into my Ross 4x4, and a shure unisphere. For sequencing, a MPU401 compatible card stuck off in a compaq sewing machine (lift with your knees, not your back) running dos and cakewalk version1.something or other. I still have the computer and the card, and maybe even that version of cakewalk. It pre-dates standard midi files IIRC.
Ever open up sequential gear and read all the silk screen messages? My T8 had all the occilators circuits marked phaser banks on the board....and the drum machine had "may peace prevail on earth" somewhere in it....sniff....
And get this, children...if you wanted to change the sounds in the drumtracks, you have to pull the roms out of thier zif sockets and pop in new ones...
64Firebird
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I don't miss any of my old gear because it was CRAP.
I still have all the cool stuff.
I still have all the cool stuff.
Sennheiser
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I'm in the latter catagory I suppose. I don't have a lot of experience with all of the high dollar mics (except one), processors, and recording equipment.
I would only comment on equipment I've personally used or a friend had let me use. I have experience only with DBX, Roland, Sennheiser, Kurzweil, Tascam, and Alesis products so I can't offer a whole hell of a lot and I usually keep my mouth shut about equipment recommendations unless it relates to the above.
I read magazine articles about gear with a grain of salt too. You don' t think a magazine is going to bad mouth one of their advertisers products do ya? Whatever they are reviewing you can bet it's gonna get at least an OK from the mag. Even if it sounds like crap.
Bdgr,
My first four-track was made by Ross. I was trying for days to remember that name. Thanks for jarring my old fart memory.
Man that machine was the shit back in '85. Hardly anyone a four-track back then and everyone that I hung with back then wanted to record on it. I still listen to the master two tracks from that machine every now and then and they sound so primitive and crappy compared to what my machine and I are capable of producing now. It was a tough little machine though.
I would only comment on equipment I've personally used or a friend had let me use. I have experience only with DBX, Roland, Sennheiser, Kurzweil, Tascam, and Alesis products so I can't offer a whole hell of a lot and I usually keep my mouth shut about equipment recommendations unless it relates to the above.
I read magazine articles about gear with a grain of salt too. You don' t think a magazine is going to bad mouth one of their advertisers products do ya? Whatever they are reviewing you can bet it's gonna get at least an OK from the mag. Even if it sounds like crap.
Bdgr,
My first four-track was made by Ross. I was trying for days to remember that name. Thanks for jarring my old fart memory.
Man that machine was the shit back in '85. Hardly anyone a four-track back then and everyone that I hung with back then wanted to record on it. I still listen to the master two tracks from that machine every now and then and they sound so primitive and crappy compared to what my machine and I are capable of producing now. It was a tough little machine though.
DavidK
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Bdgr said:
Ahhhh, the Children. We must teach the Children about the Old days, it is our job. Listen up, Kids...
Back then, we were real MEN. We didnt have no stinkin Software, plug-ins, doodads, whatnots. We went to Music Stores and drooled for hours, we worked and saved to buy the stuff. We didnt have any Morpheus/Kazaa software, we couldnt steal the latest software in ten minutes over a T1. We were MEN.
Back then, we had things called Records. They were big and Vinyl. They had cover Art that was as important as the music. Once in a while, a group came out with a double album, like the White Album ( a band from England called the Beatles did that one). Those were important, because we used to clean our pot with those. Try cleaning Pot with a Britney Spears CD, you pampered little Sissies
We didnt have forums like this to learn. We had a bunch of knobs, and we turned them as much as possible before they broke off. We had friends, too. Not no-name computer-screen friends, but actually people who owned gear. We borrowed gear, but you had to give your friend some Grass (slang term for Pot) to make sure all was "groovy".
When we were MEN:
Autotune= "Dude, sing it again, that sucked"
Effects= " Sing into the trash can, and don't Bogart that Joint"
Overdubbing= Rich kids owned four-tracks, poor kids borrowed two tape decks.
Quantize= " What the hell is that?"
Copy/Paste= I will go get the Elmers Glue.
Aux Send= " Who are we gonna send out to get more Beer?"
Automated Mix= "John, you are playing too loud"
Computer Recording= "Check it out, I just got 'Pong'"
Internet Collaboration= " I am going to Columbus to jam with some Dudes."
Normalize= " Everybody play really loud"
Mastering= " Let's buy a good TDK tape"
Noise Reduction= " Hey dude, shut the hell up"
Digital= " hey, cool watch"
Time to go now. I think I will fire up SONAR, maybe work with my Waves Native Gold Bundle or Wavelab. Maybe I will make some funny pictures in Photoshop. Maybe I will just dream about the old days.
" YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN"
Sennheiser
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Here here.
Yeah, I actually get to say that every now and then.
Computers were something I worked on in the Military. Nobody had a computer back then. Anyone hear of Cobol, Fortran?
Windows was just Bill Gates' dream at that point.
And the delay unit I used had KNOBS not pushbuttons and pre-sets.
Yeah, I actually get to say that every now and then.
Computers were something I worked on in the Military. Nobody had a computer back then. Anyone hear of Cobol, Fortran?
Windows was just Bill Gates' dream at that point.
And the delay unit I used had KNOBS not pushbuttons and pre-sets.
Badger
Active member
Sennheiser said:
Yeah knobs...I remember those...
Actually, some of us had computers...I got mine in 1979, but it wasnt doing much musically. and there wasnt any damn internet, just darpa, and we couldnt get there...so we dialed up bbs's at 300 baud, with modems that you had to set a phone reciever into...just like in war games...only we didnt get Alley Sheedy...
And windows was something that Xerox was experimenting with at Pala Alto, and Apple and Microsoft hadnt evan thought of stealing it yet.
COBOL....Compleatly Outdated By Other Languages