How do the pros get that "modern" metal tone?

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Hi everyone,
This topic is probably on every single forum, and posted about a million times in each one of them, but... i need advice.

I recorded a generic metal band last week and mixed everything. Vocals are punchy and stand out in the mix, the drums were replaced with Superior Drummer and they sound professional, but the guitars are completely lacking in "that" tone. they end up being fizzy, no punch, and brittle.

Now i hate to use this as an example (i'm not a fan) but i listened to an attack attack song called stick stickly. They're over produced.. but what stood out was the guitar tone. There was a punchy low end (a cabinet thump on chugs) it wasn't fizzy but had plenty of presence.

My setup is a presonus fp10 and an axe fx (the guitars were DI'd). I'll send them into the axe fx using only maybe a drive pedal into an amp sim (you have to boost the signal into an amp or it sounds like you're lightly strumming) then back into my daw with redwirez cab impulses.

Tone is subjective, and i'm not looking for someone to give me their tone, but rather a proper way on recording/mixing the modern metal guitar tone to give it punch, clarity, and presence so my clients can say "dam thats br00tal"

thanks.
 
I've never listened to it so i couldn't really say anything about the tone.
I guess meant about modern metal tone is really any recordings that came out recently, take acacia strains new album and Whitechapels album eternal refuge.

Sure i'm not professional, but those records have something in their tone that i lack: the punch, no fizz, and presence
whereas any metal tone i find for these guys i recorded is just brittle and sad (i've been reamping,comparing,mixing guitars for days now)
 
Just take about 3 tracks of bands that use that "killer tone" and compare each one with your track. Then adjust your pedal n EQ to match.

Anyway, that post-hardcore styles often use double-guitar (make the same performance twice with different presets) of each guitar. Thats help to make some "fullness".
 
pro guitars + pro amps + pro mics + pro rooms + pro sims + multiple takes + quantization + pro engineers + pro producers + pro mastering...........stir and serve over a bed of lame.
 
Greg_L said:
pro guitars + pro amps + pro mics + pro rooms + pro sims + multiple takes + quantization + pro engineers + pro producers + pro mastering...........stir and serve over a bed of lame.
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that's the ticket
 
brownbearTLE said:
Now i hate to use this as an example (i'm not a fan) but i listened to an attack attack song called stick stickly.
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Stick Sticky was all line 6 pod (no joke), actually the new Attack Attack album was all podfarm 2 as well.

It's all how you dial it in and most metal bands don't have a clue, if what you have is fizzy and shitty then it was over gained and probably had all the mids pulled out (that's bad).

Give this guy's settings a go and tweak from there: Ola Englund | Guitar nooooobing Blog'


Actually Stick Stickly's drums were Steven Slate as well....

Sturgis also did the mastering on both, he slams the fuck out of it with Ozone 4.
 
Greg_L said:
guitars + line 6 pods + mics? + rooms in a house + line 6 pod sims + multiple takes + quantization + 1 guy who does it all...........stir and serve over a bed of lame.
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There ya go I fixed it.
 
Oh and a terrible singer who has been melodyned to death and cheesy synth lines. Sorry forgot that as well.
 
haha, they guy who produced, recorded, and mastered the song referenced in the OP.
 
What kind of music is that supposed to be anyway? I can't keep up with all these modern suck-core genres.
 
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