how do i get these drums?

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Utilize good tracking technique with an experienced engineer with quality equipment.
 
hmmm. i wasnt thinking more along the lines of mixing...any plug ins and such?
 
Balancing the drum mix would be a good place to start, then apply compression, then eq, then add a touch of reverb...
 
ha they recorded the heartland. i love those guys! but anyways yeah no clue im struggling with drums myself so i'd kinda like to know as well.
 
hipknot01 said:
hmmm. i wasnt thinking more along the lines of mixing...any plug ins and such?
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You're asking two different questions.

Do you want to know how to get your drums to sound like that?

Or do you want to know how to thow a plugin on a drum mix and still not get your mediocre tracks to sound anything like that?

If the former, then you have to do what BigWillz suggests, and track a great-sounding kit in a good room with a competent engineer.

On the other hand, if you're looking for a mixing technique, set of plugins, etc. to accomplish a similar sound ... then I have only one that I would recommend; the "prayer" plugin. Set your faders in any random position and pray to Allah, God, Jesus, or whomever you currently worship. And perhaps, if he/she is in a good mood, your poorly-tracked drums will spontaneously transform in to a slammin' drum submix via divine intervention.

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Great drums take alot of things coming together (several of wich I don't have)

Great drums, great drummer, great room, great mic's, great engineer, great pre's, compression, eq's.

There's no silver bullit for sure.

If you don't have all of this you may want too look at "drumagog".
It will only get you so far though. It's good for replacing drums, but your cymbals & hi hat's... not so much just because of the nature of them.

My suggestion is to read alot, get some books on drums, "the drummers studio survival guide","the recording engineers handbook", and then spend alot of time testing mic positions & tunings on the drums.

Good luck;)

F.S.
 
wow i sure wish i had a schedule with no open slots in it like them...
 
im mainly trying to get my kick to sound that way. i have no problem with the way my drums sound, its just i want that kick sound.
 
hipknot01 said:
im mainly trying to get my kick to sound that way. i have no problem with the way my drums sound, its just i want that kick sound.
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I don't know what setup you have but try putting your kick mic about 4 to 6 inches from the beater head pointing strait at the beater. Move the mic direction and distance closer to the beater for more click (alot of what your hearing) and less boom. Do the opposit for more boom and less click. Don't eq in tons of low end. Work in the 80hz to 100hz range for bottom and in the 4k range for the click/slap on the eq. You can play with 400 to 500 to see what you get too. add and subtrack a bit and see what you like there.

Eq it with the mix going so you brain doesn't wig on the fact your kick is so full of hi frequencies ;)

Look at your beater, if it's too soft drummer may need to change it out.


All this is dependent on a bunch of other factors as mentioned before though.

F.S.
 
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what mic are you using for kick? how do you position your mic? is your kick tuned properly? there are many different factors but if you take your time you can get the sound you want without triggering
 
hipknot01 said:
im mainly trying to get my kick to sound that way. i have no problem with the way my drums sound, its just i want that kick sound.
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Well, it would have been nice if you had titled your thread: "How do I get that kick sound?" :D

The answer is that you need to experiment with the kick itself to figure out how to get it to sound like that at the source. Then you need to figure out what kind of mic in what position, etc. It's not easy, and it requires a lot of experimentation if you want to do it right.

Or you could just use drumagog (google it) and find a sample that closely approximates that sound and swap it with your current kick tracks.

Good luck.

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Drums are a biatch. End. Of. Story. I'd highly suggest the Beta 52a (what I have) to get a really nice kick sound. The e602 doesn't sound bad either, as I'm not a big fan of the D112.....if you like vintage though, you'd probably like it more. Double mic snare *i use an sm57 on top and beta57 on bottom(polarity reversed obviously) and use good hardware/software. Not really much more than that, as drums are (to me) the hardest things to get a REALLY good sound out of. There's just so many different frequencies blasting in all different directions, and you always get bleed, it's just minimizing the bleed, and compressing/limiting/gating accordingly... Hope my rambly post gave at least a hint of helpful info. Good luck dude,

-Joel
 
You should be able to get a very good drum sound with 4 mics. If you can't get them to sound good like that, more mics will probably just cause you more problems. It's very simple...There is no magic formula, you have to get the drums sounding good BEFORE you even go near the "RECORD" button. Then you play with mic placement until it sounds good....
 
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