How do i get that deep heavy guitar sound?

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I've recorded a song, which you can check out at my music site

http://www.soundclick.com/faith23

-the song is called disciplined revolution

-I got the guitars mixed out and added some EQ to them at the end where the distortion enters

-My question is, how do I get a more brighter and deeply HEAVIER guitar sound, like old metallica's Master of Puppets. I don't want it perfectly there but I want the sound to be brighter, my guitar sounds like it's inside a covered box, while played.

Any solutions?
 
Weird...it says this thread has been "moved."

EQ makes the world go around. Anyway, I'd suggest sucking all the mids out. Boost the lows, boost the highs, and do a cut of the mids. It makes for a sick "crunch" tone.

The rest is screwing around with short reverbs.

Good luck.
 
Can also toy with duplicating the guitar track and dropping the octave, EQ and mix that in as needed.
 
Pinky said:
Can also toy with duplicating the guitar track and dropping the octave, EQ and mix that in as needed.
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EXCELLENT contribution there.

Not that I would "tell," but you're really "jusumpilgrim," aren't you pinky? No need to reply if you are...I'll just assume by your silence that you'd rather drop the subject ;)
 
I got these article...

Metallica's James Hetfield: The last time I used a distortion [overdrive] pedal was on Ride the Lightning, and it was hell. It was an Ibanez Tube Screamer like Kirk uses. It really helps his solos cut through, but it puts a shitty coating on smooth rhythm tones, and it was hard to make it not sound like a pedal. You can recognize Marshall distortion in an instant; that's why I shied away from that and went with MESA/Boogies. I basically use the Boogie's distortion with a non-programmable studio-quality Aphex parametric EQ to fine-tune certain frequencies, dipping out some of the midrange. All my speakers are Celestion Vintage 30s."
 
Metallica is the cover story for Guitar Player Sep 1991, which I have.

James Hetfield: "I use a lot of mics... up to 8. I use them to phase-cancel each other, to control the sound like with an EQ but instead of an EQ. ... for the 1991 album, I'm using MESA Boogie amps, with ADA MP-1 tube preamp, but Boogie Simul-class II is the main part of the sound. Cabs: Boogie for clean, cutting stuff, Marshalls with 30 watt Celestion Vintage 30s for warmth."
 
James Argo said:
I basically use the Boogie's distortion with a non-programmable studio-quality Aphex parametric EQ to fine-tune certain frequencies, dipping out some of the midrange. All my speakers are Celestion Vintage 30s."
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That makes a lot of sense, actually...Marshall cabinets have about a 10db boost in the high mids that's VERY recognizeable and not at all like Metallica.

(but they'll have to pry my tubescreamer out of my cold, dead hands) :D

By the way, I clicked on the link, and it's dead. I think dobro just borrowed this thread from another forum to make this forum seem more "respectable." :D
 
Hey!! wait....it's the same guy!!!

How's that for synergy!!
 
Hey "bball_1523," I noticed that you never answered Dobro's question in the other thread? You know the one. LOL.






















(and no, you can't download a pre-amp from Kazaa)
 
take track one, the mono recording of guitar and get it to sound how you want in mono form (right treble, bass, distortion)

then apply to that track a delay of 35 to 40 ms 100% wet (no original signal) - and call that track 2

then apply reverb about 85% dry to track 1 with sparse echo and delay of about 35 ms

pan track one full to one side and pan track 2 full to the other side


then experiment with adding bass EQ to one or both
 
Just buy a big ass amp.
Write some bad ass songs.
Join a bad ass band.
Get a big ass record deal.
And your bad ass engineer will get you a bad ass sound.


Well....that's what Metallica did.... right?
 
question: does your guitar sound metallica COMING OUT OF YOUR AMP? if not, you might want to start there. with my metal zone, an alesis micro eq, and my old fender musicmaster amp (actually a bass amp, but it's not bad for guitar), my sound seems to be somewhere in between metallica and system of a down. not too shabby. of course, i haven't even tried to record it much.
 
Hey bball I listened to your track, have you ever heard of the Line 6 POD, go buy one and use the Rectified amp models that model the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier head and you will have the Metalica tone you are looking for. If you haven't heard a POD before you should go check it out. You can take POD directly into your recording console and get the most amazing guitar tones direct. Best part is the price now will be better then ever since they just release the POD XT you can pick a POD 2.0 for around $200-$250 bucks. Its killer trust me.
 
what about that computer POD, Line 6 Guitarport, something like that? Is that pretty good?
 
Guitarport is pretty cool as well but it does several diffferent things like Web lessons, Jamming with a Hendrix tune, and has some tones available you can use off the WEB but not as many as a POD or POD XT I don't believe. But you have to be connected to the WEB site and there is monthly subscription charge to the WEB site. It's kind of like the difference between selling hardware (POD) and Services (GuitarPort). But I did see a guy from Line 6 demo the GuitarPort and it was preety slick as well.
 
Go for the V-AMP 2 from Behringer. It has more features than the POD, sounds better and is almost half the price.

Tukkis
 
Tukkis said:
Go for the V-AMP 2 from Behringer. It has more features than the POD, sounds better and is almost half the price.

Tukkis
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-Don't I need a good reliable computer and a great soundcard in order for the V-AMP to work?

- I got a cheesy soundcard; soundblaster 64D PCI and a cheesy computer; 128 mb/ram, 450 mhz PII, Windows 98 1st edition, lol
 
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