How do I get a thicker tone?

[Descalabro]

What helped to make the difference for me was to use a fatter string.

Thanks for answering.

Yes, I already use 0.11 strings, I may go up to 0.12, but that's also something I want to be careful about, because fatter strings also seem to vibrate less and they seem to cause more ''muddyness''. The sound becomes less clear and dies faster.

But trying with strings is definately one of my plans.

 

[adamvelvetu]

Ok, what do you think about these for the mixers:

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/502.aspx

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/802.aspx

http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1730

http://www.tapcoworld.com/products/mixseries/index.html

http://www.musicstore.com/en_EN/EUR...Phonic-MU502-Compact-Mixer/art-REC0007296-000

And for pedal:

http://www.behringer.de/EN/Products/GDI21.aspx

http://www.jeverman.com/thepot.html this one is possibly the only beautiful pedal I've ever seen.


I wonder if the mixer would be a better choice to avoid having more noise sources...

Please also tell me your suggestions keeping in mind I'll be recording one thing at a time (no need for large gear).

Thanks

IMHO (and that's all it is because its not my money we're talking about ) I like going with the mixer best because the mixer will probably be more useful in the long run. i thought all of the ones you mentioned looked pretty similar. we used a samson in our lab at school and it always got good results.

From your other post it looks like you're trying to stay as analog as possible so you may consider just staying analog entirely and then mixing to digital. i've been looking around the analog forum (thats what brought me here) and lots of guys are using a similar setup. not to throw another thing into the pot, but it could be useful...

 

[Steve Henningsgard]

If you want thicker tone, you NEED to tighten up your playing and double-track your stuff. There is no pedal, amp, guitar, DAW, recording method, mic, etc. etc. that will make up for sloppy playing. If you can't play your parts exactly the same multiple times, worry less about recording and more about practicing.

You'll find your tone gets much better with exactly the same equipment once your playing gets better!

 

[Descalabro]

If you want thicker tone, you NEED to tighten up your playing and double-track your stuff. There is no pedal, amp, guitar, DAW, recording method, mic, etc. etc. that will make up for sloppy playing. If you can't play your parts exactly the same multiple times, worry less about recording and more about practicing.

You'll find your tone gets much better with exactly the same equipment once your playing gets better!

Thanks for answering.

Ok, i'm going to take your advice into practice.

Anyway, I wasn't at all thiking on releasing anything without being played the best as possible, but I must confess I wasn't planing on doubling 2 guitars, mainly because I had tried it and the hi notes sounded like a weird echo. (sorry for my bad English)

I suppose that I should use a lesser amount of distortion on the doubled tracks, just to add definition and avoiding a "bathroom" echo on my higher notes?

Also, how much of the bitting hi-ends will get doubled too? I'd hate that.

 

[TexRoadkill]

The Demonizer has pre and post distortion EQ's. How much more eq do you need?

 

[Descalabro]

The Demonizer has pre and post distortion EQ's. How much more eq do you need?

Hi and thanks for answering me.

That is true, but believe me, I've tried and tried the EQs on the Demonizer. Even though it has a lot of EQ it's a distortion pedal and, like any distortion pedal, it doesn't give your sound the body an amp does. When I was using the Metal Muff I had most of my sound coming from the Vox AC 30 Amplug, the Metal Muff was there only for a bit of crunch. The demonizer was made for Direct Recording, that's true, but it's not an amp, it's a distortion pedal.

More people using the Demonizer have this issue:

"I'm really loving the Demonizer. Anyone tried the Womanizer? I've heard it's similar, but with better low end... might be interesting."

(from http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/re...her-new-song-w-the-demonizer.html#post1291142)

I'm really not disapointed with the low end, it's the hi ends that are showing too much, and when I try to take them off with the EQ, the tone doesn't really keep its qualities. And I'm not even using the second distortion on the pedal because it adds more noise, and I don't need that.

I recently started testing with doubling my guitars and it helped a bit, but I'm still not happy with the guitar tone itself, I need to take out just a bit of buzz and a bit of hi ends too.

My guitar isn't great, but it isn't bad either.

It's a Jackson Dinky 2L (left-handed)

I changed the pickups, the bridge has a Seymour Duncan PATB2, this is the pickup that matters for now. It's passive, I know, but for now it's what I have. It's a hi output pickup but it provides perfecly clean sound too.

Anyway, I'm working on this, I know I can't have my perfect tone in one day.

 

[BIGSHAQDADDY]

Hello.

I do direct recording, I live at an apartment and I can't afford a good tube amp anyway, so I have chosen this method for my recordings.

I used to record with a EH Metal Muff pedal and a Vox AC 30 Amplug.

The Vox AC 30 provided a warm and thick tone and the Metal Muff provided the extra crunchy sound I need.

The problem was the AC 30 had a background noise like an old tape recorder (even while playing), and it runned on batteries so it was not reliable for recording. I also wanted something a bit easier to control and to have higher quality gear for higher quality recording.

I recently bought a Presonus Firebox and a Damage Control Demonizer pedal. The Demonizer is pretty cool, it has a very warm and raging sound, but the sound is lacking a bit of lower tone. I mean, with the Vox AC 30 amplug I didn't have this problem because it acted like a replacement for the amp, but the Demonizer, even though it's made for direct recording lacks a tone control. I need my guitar sound to be 'bassier', to have more body.

I tried to equalize the sound with my recording software, playing around with the lower frequencies, but didn't help.

How can I do this?

I need any tips on how to do this, preferably in a digital way.

Listen at http://soundcloud.com/descalabro/tracks

Thanks.

You know what has thicker tone than a Vox Ac30 Amplug........

A Vox Ac30. If you cant record loud in your house, go to guitar center and record it with some kind of feild recorder, then drop the .wav into protools.

 

[Descalabro]

The Demonizer has pre and post distortion EQ's. How much more eq do you need?

You know, I was thinking about what you said about the EQs on the Demonizer and I was more persistent than the last time, so after some endless meandering with its many EQs, I've actually obtained a sound which isn't perfect but at least it's good enough for now.

I've also double-recorded like many users recommended me to.

http://soundcloud.com/descalabro/tracks

 

[Descalabro]

You know what has thicker tone than a Vox Ac30 Amplug........

A Vox Ac30. If you cant record loud in your house, go to guitar center and record it with some kind of feild recorder, then drop the .wav into protools.

Hello and thanks for answering me.

I don't know where guitar center is, but it definately isn't in Portugal. Anyway, I'm still in the songwriting process, I'm just trying to learn this stuff in advance, also because I record my ideas as they appear, and since the tone I get drives my creativity, I want to have a decent tone.

For now the matter is resolved.