How did they do that?!?!?!?

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How did they do that? Listen to the audio file attached and see if you guys can figure out how this was done. I don't know if the MP3 will do it as good or not, but off the CD it sounds like it starts in the right speaker then jumps out of the speaker and into your right ear, then goes through your head and out your left ear, and into the left speaker.Tthen it goes behind the speakers, and then back out into your head and so on........it's quite a trip. :eek:

I don't think that just simply reversing the phase is going to that. :confused:

Any ideas?

Head Trip

-tkr
 
I just uploaded a wave file of it also (might sound a bit better now).

Head Trip Wave

Yeah, what's that SRS Effect and how exactly does it work? Can this be done without the SRS thing?

-tkr
 
I did a little experiment, loaded a split stereo file, phase inverted a part of the right channel, and made a gliding pan of the left channel to center, gave something like that effect, don't have much time right now, if I had, I would try adding a compressor, I think it's much like that .... now I wonder .. have you heard the track on a 5:1 system ? guess it'll go to the rear speakers as it is a phase invertion.
bizz
 
bizarre,
I tried a similiar experiment but mine was with a copied mono file. I took one of the sounds in one of my songs and copied and reversed the phase on it the played around with the panning and volume levels. I figured that since that sound would be out of phase with the rest of the track that "maybe" it would give the same effect, but it didn't. So I guess it has to be done with something that was recorded in stereo, maybe I'll record a stereo guitar or something later and try that out (do you think it'll mater if I use two different mics, cause I don't have a matched pair).

I just tried it with my computer suround speakers, and it sure did go to the back speakers. So was this recorded in surround then just collapsed to stereo or something?

-tkr
 
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Tekker
No - I don't think it'll matter if you are using different mics - I did it on some drums/keyboard file I had layin' around. I don't think they mixed it to 5:1, a lot of pro releases freak out in surround because occasionally it's out of phase and no one noticed
:) bizz

by the way - did you phase reverse the hole copied mono file ? I think you should do it only on the part where you want that effect, just guessing, but if your ears are used to listen to the whole tune phase reversed, it'll be harder to hear when it happens
 
bizarre,
I did just reverse the phase where I wanted the effect (not the whole thing). I acually copied 3 tracks (for a total of 4) and panned two of them left and two right (so I had two stereo pairs), phase reversed one of the left ones, then I started playing with the volume envelopes. For the parts where I wanted it to jump out of the speakers I used the pair with the phase reverse and when I wanted it to pass just between the speakers I used the pair with out the phase reverse (does that make sense?), but it didn't really do anything. :(

Was your drum/keyboard file recorded in stereo? I'm thinking that may be the key (or at least part of it).

-tkr
 
There are Leslie emulators that will sound a bit like this, you can probably find a plug-in that does this if you search for Leslie or rotating cabinet...

This sounds a bit like Lonestar. It's a country band, pretty sure of that, and depending on which one, they might have been recorded here or nearby. Can you find where they recorded on the CD and post it? Or the CD name? If it's here, I'll be glad to try and ask whoever did it.



Oh, and it's not necessarily a phase thing. One of the reasons it's "moving" from left to right has to do with the delay of each signal, and the gentle manipulation (prolly 10ms, at the most) of independent channels there (and a bit of EQ, too) is what gives it this effect. I'm not sure, but trying to manipulate JUST the phase isn't going to yield this effect. You'll need to gently speed up/slow down individual sides of the stereo track to make it work like they have.
 
It's Chris Rice - Smell The Color 9

It was recorded and mixed at The Beanstalk, The Castle, and Screaming Baby in Franklin TN and mastered at Mastermix in Nashville TN.

-tkr
 
WHOA, no way. My new GF has been playing me that CD this weekend, I hadn't caught that intro part... I'll have to listen to that CD more intently, that's for sure... There were some notable songs on that CD, too, from what I remember (I've only heard two other songs, lol)...

Okay, Franklin is far away (far suburb of Nashville), so no dice there. However, I'm confident that either a rotary cabinet plug-in or fiddling with the acceleration/deceleration of each side of the stereo image will solve this problem. If nothing else, SBS is included with Media Player, and you might be able to make some test tones that reveal the efx being used for that effect. They also have a website that may (or may not) sell that plug-in.

Dunno.
 
Tekker
:) yeah it does make sense that you copied the track 3 times, but I think it's doin' the job twice, haven't tried it, but I don't think it's neccesery. I tried doin' it again, wanted to upload a file of it, and you know what - nothing really happened, The effect I achieved first time didn't occur ... HUH ??? I'm gonna play around with this some more - very interesting and I wanna use that effect :D
I'll post if I come to a conclusion
bizz
 
Kelly,
That's pretty funny, what a coincedence. That sound effect is at 2:07 on the Smell The Color 9 song.

Originally posted by bizarre
yeah it does make sense that you copied the track 3 times, but I think it's doin' the job twice, haven't tried it, but I don't think it's neccesery.
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bizarre,
I thought it might be, because when it jumps out at you the phase would be reversed, then when it passes throught the speakers it's not. But it looks like it may not be that simple and I may have to look into that rotary cabinet thing (is there a FREE pluging?) and see if I can get this thing to work.
But if you (or anyone else....Kelly? ) can recreate this effect, then I'd definitly love to hear an audio file of it. :)

-tkr
 
it sure sounds dimensional. I am sure that with headphones it would be really cool.

The only sure fire way I know of achieving this is to record binaurally using a binaural head.

Do a search on the net for binaural recordings and listen with headphones. It sounds cool. You can hear from the front, the back, the top, totally 3d.
 
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