Hoontech C Port

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I've had mine for over a year. Only problem I've had was that the graphics card caused interference (digital noise) due to insufficient power filtering in the breakout box. This was solved by using an external 12V power supply with balanced power. Costed about US$30. Other than that odd one, no problems other tham mess ups from my side:)

I also fried one breakout box but that was because I installed it at a friendds place and his grounding was faulty, which fried all inputs:( Got a new one for free though.
 
Cool, testimony from two guys whose opinion I value. :cool:

I don't see that the C-Port has anything in it's favor over the Omni Studio beyond midi, but at only ten dollars more, I think I'll go with the C-Port.

Thanks guys.
 
I see everyones point on the c port i myself have this down as a consideration but if i can get a better system cheaper of course i,ll go that way or if the better system or the step up aint that much more then why not take it essp if one gets balanced io,s

I have to agree for what you get with the c port its hard to say it aint a good deal but i still feel the delta 1010 and the hoontech sta systems three which both have balanced io,s are still two systems to be examined

it would be great if anyone here has had the chance to test out these systems back to back and would have some techicial spec on all three other then what the manufactures have released on their sites

for price sure the c port is a winner but the delta 10 10 is dropping in price fast and it does have a good track record with a lot of users in these forums so the step up to the 1010 shortly may be pretty equal if the fall continues there only 96 dollars difference so far @ the delta1010 going for 495usd and the c port going for 399usd

other then these two entries the Hoontech Sta systems three is probably double both of these in price so maybe with that system it may be more debatable that the quality step up aint that great for 500plus usd anyway let the debate roll on :-)

regards wayne
Melbourne Australia
 
c9-2001 said:


why did you favor the Delta 1010 over the C-port? to me the c-port offers more...
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The Gadget labs offered a lot over its competition, but since they are now dead, it doesnt matter. My point is, Midiman has been around for a long time. They have a full range of drivers, including linux and winxp. Hoontech may not be here 2 years from now, and if you have one of thier cards your screwed for new drivers. Go look at the hell all the folks in the gadget labs goup are going through trying find someone that can write drivers for the damn thing so that it will work for modern os's and software.

As much as I like to support the little guy, it is just not a good idea to buy computer equipment from unproven companys, because it is something that will have to be updated from time to time.
 
well i'm sure STAudio/Hoontech won't be gone in a year or 2. seeing that so many companys are starting to cary them. truly i never heard of gadget labs until i had got my wave/424. and drivers for gadget labs you won't ever have to worry about. there were 2 guy on the group that said they would write the new drivers but that was back in the summer.
does the delta1010 have xp drivers? i know the C-port does...
 
why did you favor the Delta 1010 over the C-port? to me the c-port offers more... "I DONT"

Im simply keeping an open mind here while the c port on the surface does offer a good deal for what you get @ a very good opening price.

SUPPORT FOR A PRODUCT IS CRUCIAL

theres no point waiting for someone who is gonna write something that aint no gurantee of anything essp if a company goes out of business and then your waiting for boffins to write drivers etc its like saying in gonna find gold tomorrow morning in my backyard while there is a chance of that happening there is no 100% gurantee of that so for me i look carefully before i leap while hoontech sta may do as well as m audio it is true if it all dont catch on we are the end users stuck with the dead product and its not like they are exactely giving them away

Though i will say being someone who was pretty sold on the delta 1010 the sta systems have really taken my attention i only posted in here to find out what the rap on all this is id say if the sta systems three drops bigtime in price then m audio may have something to worry about then

What i want to see is m audios next release to replace the delta 1010 id say they had a good look at what sta have done price wise and feature wise and if thats anything to go off their next release should be one to wait for as alot of stuff seems to get better and cheaper each time its released essp in the soundcard market.
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Does the Delta 1010 have built in mic pre's? The additional purchase of a decent mic pre (presuming you don't already have one), adds considerably to the price of the Delta.

I don't think anyone can dispute the quality of the Delta. Of the numerous posts I've seen here over the last year or so, I've heard nothing but praise when compared to other comparable products. After nearly a year of research, I had settled on the 1010 as the card for me, then I heard about the c-port. I must admit I felt a little leary about it at first. Why is it so inexpensive?
But I took a chance, the price just being too tempting, and I have to say I'm very impressed! It is a well made and well designed product.

The 3000 system is even nicer feature wise, and i'm sure the quality is just as good. Just slightly out of my price range.

If enough interest is generated here and other places, that enough of these units are sold, support won't be a problem.
So come on you guys, buy a Hoontech product and help sleep at night!


Twist
 
twist said:
Does the Delta 1010 have built in mic pre's? The additional purchase of a decent mic pre (presuming you don't already have one), adds considerably to the price of the Delta.

then I heard about the c-port. I must admit I felt a little leary about it at first. Why is it so inexpensive?
But I took a chance, the price just being too tempting, and I have to say I'm very impressed! It is a well made and well designed product.
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no the delta doesn't have mic pre's. the omni does. some places have the c-port at $449 and $499, i just happen to find the price at $399 and told a lot of people about it. not saying i'm the only one that found that price or anything.

i got to test 3 sound cards in the last few days:
delta 1010
c-port
echo layla

i did the recodings on a dat and under nuendo. it was just a beat off a mpc2000 and a triton. the delta 1010 had the best hi's out of the 3 cards. the c-port sounded just asgood but the hi's weren't as crisp. the layla was kinda muddy. the mids on the track sound muffled. so the c-port can hang with the delta quite well.
2nd test:
i had a nueman m149 to mess with. i just pluged it into the c-ports mic pre's... the recording sounded good but got scratchy... so i plugedup a DBX 386 pre amp.....flawless the recording was perfect. and the same goes with delta. the delta had no back round noise and the floor noise was quite low to. this being better than the c-port. the layla i couldn't get to work right after the first test. the floor noise was at -41db, and thats not good.

so overall to me the delta is the OVERALL better card but the c-port is the BEST BUY.
i'm not a ture tester, just a working producer. but i think if someone else was to do the same type of test they would come up with just about the same results
 
Thank you c9 for you valuable input in doing those tests for us all

there was a recording posted here a few days ago a blues track i listened to it and it sounded good it was recorded with the c port but yes you are correct in stating the scratching noise that i did hear as well on that very recording and i was only using my yamaha computer speakers not my hr8,s so i heard that noise quite clearly.

I am just starting out here as well so i aint no expert on this subject its just good to get these views from users because in the end thats all we all are end users i dont believe we should have to fork out our money before a product has trully proven it self so that might mean more testing from the companies before we become test bunnies well i say so be it.

now that we know about how these cards have gone against each other it might be good to know if someone has also tested out a hoontech systems 3 thats the fully balanced unit they sell in their line of product id like to see that up against the delta 1010
anyway thanks again for all the helpfull tips everyone


kind regards wayne
Melbourne Australia
 
no problem.
i was truly testing the cards to see which is the best to record my groups upcoming demo. my other 2 members of my production team own the soundcards so it wasn't anything testing them.

i found out today that the layla i had was the older 20bit version, so i think the 24bit one may work a little better.
we did end up having a pop/crackle in the recording with the c-port but that was the mic pre i think. they are good but not as good as the DBX.

it seems that if you yell in the the recording(with the c-port preamps) it will get a little muddy. so i didn't use the c-ports preamps. the layla will be getting traded in for a motu 2408 in the next few days for my partners home studio, so i'll put it to the test too.
 
c9 try the 1224 or the 1296 motu i believe these are the better choices so iam told anyway thank you again and if you happen to get the sta systems 3 and can test it against the delta 1010 this would be great indeed to see how the both go head to head as i feel now i will pick between one of those two set ups im more in favour of the 1010 but if the other outperforms by a large margin then i,ll have to consider what i get then but the way prices are going with the delta 1010 i feel this is going to be my choice unless something else comes along to blow that out of the water anyway thanks again :-)
 
i think the 2408 is the way to go

trebles said:
c9 try the 1224 or the 1296 motu i believe these are the better choices so iam told anyway
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well in his case i think the 2408 is the best bet. it has 3 tdif(and he has tascam da78's or da88's? i don't know which one. the 2408mkII has ADAT optical input/output, TDIF input/output, 2 channels of S/PDIF in and 4 channels out
the 1296 and 1224 don't have any of there features.

its not my money, so what ever he buys is up to him
 
c9-2001 said:
well i'm sure STAudio/Hoontech won't be gone in a year or 2. seeing that so many companys are starting to cary them. truly i never heard of gadget labs until i had got my wave/424. and drivers for gadget labs you won't ever have to worry about. there were 2 guy on the group that said they would write the new drivers but that was back in the summer.
does the delta1010 have xp drivers? i know the C-port does...
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I wouldnt be so sure. I hope they are, as they sound like a good company. I didnt think that Gadget Labs would be gone. A lot of people really liked them, and they great reviews. I was following the group until yesterday, so I know about the efforts to get someone to write drivers. I am not holding my breath. They got someone to improve existing drivers, but writing XP drivers from scratch is a whole differant story.

The Delta had XP drivers before XP was out. at the time I checkd the hoontech did not, nor did they say anything about when they would be getting them. I assume by what your saying they have them now, but I dont take chances anymore.
 
I should have went the hoontech

I rushed out and bought myself a Ego-sys waveterminal 2496,altough this is a great card and the drivers are supurb i am wishing now i went for the the hoontech because of the lack of inputs.

Hoontech have made many cards for the gamer and the audiophile and will be around for a while.

Can someone explain the difference between the STA and the C-port?

(Please E-mail me Trebles im from Melbourne too and could do with some help

Thanks
 
mixit-g heres my email address hq72@hotmail.com drop me aline we can have a chat about all this m8 maybe even meet if you would like im at taylors lakes.

anyway

the sta systems 3 i believe is a fully balanced unit so im told

heres the info on the systems 3 and the c port


systems 3

http://www.staudio.com/products/system3/index.html

c port

http://www.staudio.com/products/dsp2000/index.html

I think either system is good its just the question of the dollar vs how much performance one gets for what they spend
i like the c port but it only has two balanced xlr,s this is not good from where iam concerned but i guess if all was balanced would anyone by a systems three ? ............. i think not

i think at this stage unless im proven wrong or something else comes out which is cheaper and better then the delta 1010 im going to stick with the delta 1010 and with its price already @495usd it seems clever to find someone in the us to plain wrap and send one of these to me saving me all the bs with customs and the over inflated aussie price which let me note here is 2300 dollars now you see why i aint buying my unit where i live sure im gonna have a power supply dilema with the us unit but i can live with that and get a local supply to drive the same unit and in the balance save my self some serious dollars better spend on the great microphone deals being had at the moment :-)

o well in the end my best advice is save more money then you need for a product go out and talk your best deals even if it means they want to kick ya butt out of the shop i,ll still bet someone will drop real low on price then back up the talk with the bucks then go home and enjoy thats how i do it anyway thats all for now

regards wayne
Melbourne Australia
 
It's been a long day and I'm being dense. Why am I only seeing 4 ins on this thing? :confused:
 
no that seems a good question i was wondering about the same thing i was told they are around the back of the unit but dont take my word for this as this is what i was told have another look at the link i left you may find some explanation in the specs sheet
 
The system III consists of two breakout boxes: The ADCIII with 8 mono XLR ins and 4 stereo TRS on the back and the DACIII which has 8 mono XLR and 4 stereo TRS outs on the back. All the connectors on the front of the DACIII are digital.

The c-port breakout box has 2 XLR mono ins and 8 mono TS (TR?) ins on the front and 2 mono XLR outs and 8 mono TS (TR?) outs on the back.

/Ola
 
BTW, trebles - you still fail to see that the major reason for buying the system III is that you get 8 fair quality mic preamps and not that it has balanced ins. If you're planning on using a mixer, or external mic preamps, the system III is not perfect for you as you will be paying for the preamps on the ADCIII.

I've been checking out the c-port and system III for two years now and I got the c-port because I had a mixer. Too bad I had to sell the mixer:( makes me wish I had bought the system III.

Well, you never know.

/Ola
 
Ola i do see your point with the c port i like what i see but i dont like 8 unbalanced i,os thats the down side for me

yes there are two balanced xlr,s but still for me its not quite what i had planned, but i wont say im not tempted for the price its hard to beat that packages entry price nothing gets near it on that level alone @399usd

up from there the delta1010 well what can i say its all been said before and it takes balanced trs or unbalanced 1/4 and it has midi etc and @495usd its quickly becoming affordable for what it is and you dont have to comprimise on the unbalanced deal up from that the systems 3 sta hoontech well it has 8 balanced xlr io,s etc yes it costs more but i figure if i could land this for 750usd then i feel id be happy with that system so its choices choices still id say january sales will be a good time to do the price rounds and sit and see who gives the best deals to be had not a good time to spend up big unless your buying some decent priced omnis at 35usd a pop :-) ;)
 
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