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How bout this? I am purchasing a lot of Mackie recording equipment this week and guess what, I have no idea on how to get started. Where can one go to find the BASICS, and I mean basics of getting started in the home studio field. My equipment will be a Behringer 24 channel mixer, Mackie MDR24/96 Hard Disk Recorder with Mackie monitors HR824's. I thinnk that I will be overwhelmed by all this especially with no previous experience in the home recording biz.

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All Dog Band said:
How bout this? I am purchasing a lot of Mackie recording equipment this week and guess what, I have no idea on how to get started. Where can one go to find the BASICS, and I mean basics of getting started in the home studio field. My equipment will be a Behringer 24 channel mixer, Mackie MDR24/96 Hard Disk Recorder with Mackie monitors HR824's. I thinnk that I will be overwhelmed by all this especially with no previous experience in the home recording biz.

WHO CAN HELP THIS LOST SOUL ?

Use the search engine on this site....This question has been a million times. :D
 
If you are going to drop all that money on that gorgeous Mackie harddrive recorder........why do you want to go an ruin it with that behringer crapola.
 
Outlaws said:
If you are going to drop all that money on that gorgeous Mackie harddrive recorder........why do you want to go an ruin it with that behringer crapola.

Better yet - If you're considering spending a chunk of change on a studio but don't have any experience yet, consider holding off on the expensive stuff for just a bit until you can get a better feel for what you want.

Here's where the search engine really pays off, because for the price of a couple of days browsing, you can get a million ideas here.

For instance - think about how many tracks you HAVE to record at once. One? Two? Four? A 24 channel board may be overkill until the time when you know it's really called for, and then you will have more to go on as far as brands and build quality; you will become picky for good reason.

How about considering starting with a small or medium sized dedicated unit - like a small or mid size Korg - focus on well proven entry level mics (Marshall / MXL, Studio Projects, AKG, Rode, Shure, Audix), get yourself a set of stage booms, a pair of decent 8" monitors, and learn how to build cables?

The Mackie units are primo build quality, but if you don't know what to do first, that won't help you - yet. Spend some time learning the basics first. Then when you're ready to graduate to The Next Step, you'll know when, why, and what you need.
 
Treeline said:
Better yet - If you're considering spending a chunk of change on a studio but don't have any experience yet, consider holding off on the expensive stuff for just a bit until you can get a better feel for what you want.

Agreed. That's a rather audacious set-up for just starting out.
 
Why in God's name are you going to drop a bundle on recording gear when you don't know what the hell it does? You are headed for a major league mistake, brother, one that you will regret for months or years. I've spent the price of a pretty good new car on pro audio gear over the last 2 years. I spent 8 months spec'ing gear before I bought anything, and there are still a few things I wish I'd done differently. Your first mistake is buying a Behringer mixer.
What you need to do is this- Spook around on this board for at least 3 months, studying mostly microphones, mic preamps, and studio building and display. Explain to people what you intend to record, where you intend to record it, and what you intend to do with the recordings afterwards. Then create complete gear lists with every piece of equipment involved. Every power conditioner, every cable, shock mount, pop filter, the instruments, headphones, headphone amps, tuners, right down to the chair you're going to sit in while you do it. When you can get 5, just 5, of the top fifty posters on this board to agree you have a plan, then buy.
Right now, the brands aren't as important as the peripherals, and the peripherals vary depending on your intentions. Recording classical music, or hip hop, or metal, call for very different setups. My setup is designed to record real acoustic sound in real acoustic space with minimal processing. This means I can do a real good job on a string quartet or a bluegrass trio. My setup would suck for hip hop. No synths, no modules, almost no FX. I'm more likely to use 2 mics to record an 88 piece orchestra than I am to use 42 tracks to record a pop song. That's just me. I chose the tools to do the job I want to do. I built my studio around the front end, not the back end. 60% of the money I've spent was on instruments, microphones, and mic preamps. Most of the rest was room conditioning, the recorder itself, A-D conversion, and peripherals- mic stands, headphones, cables, shock mounts, pop filters, power conditioning.
All I'm saying is- you're *not* ready to buy anything except a really great instrument, if you play one and don't have one, and books on home recording. It's time to do some homework, not to buy stuff you don't understand yet. In general, things that you really should study:

bass traps
diffusors
gobos
vocal isolation booths
compressors
reverb units
power conditioners/voltage regulators
shock mounts
pop filters
patch cables
mic cables
patch bays
headphones
headphone distribution amps
monitors, active and passive
mic preamps/channel strips
amp modelers
hard drive digital recorders
standalone digital recorders
digital audio workstations
sound cards
audio recording software
high speed CD duplicators
open reel analog recorders
dynamic mics
ribbon mics
large diaphragm condenser mics
small diaphragm condenser mics
boom stands
uninterruptible power supplies
mixing consoles
racks
multi-effects boxes
lava lamps (critical)

When you can speak reasonably intelligently on all of the above, contrasting the prices, advantages, and disadvantages of entry-level, mid priced, and high end examples of each, you will be ready to spend the price of a pretty good car on recording equipment. The good news is- this is a pretty good place to start that learning process. Good Luck.-Richie
 
That should get stickied on the top of every forum, Richie!

Nice post:D
 
Thank you for your kind words gentlemen. And I hope that the original poster understands I'm not newbie-bashing, I'm just trying to prevent his enthusiasm from causing him to move too fast. The more deliberate your planning is, the fewer expensive mistakes you will make.-Richie
 
Si, Si...that was a great post Richie. We could all learn from it.
 
That was an amazing post Richie, but you have to admit......some of us would love to have that Mackie HD :D

I'm going for Alesis AdatHD though ;)
 
I mean, there is nothing WRONG with starting out with expensive gear. It's just that it's quite risky, because you don't know what you are getting into, and you might be spending the money on the wrong things. And a MDR 24/96 aint THAT expensive...

But yeah, instead of getting the MDR+Behringer, which not only is a strange combination and will set you back at least $2000, maybe a cheaper all in one digital porta for a little above $1000 is probably a better choice, like the Yamaha AW16G. That way you have loads of money left to get good mics and such.

You can always upgrade stuff later, and the prices are typically dropping all the time.
 
regebro said:
And a MDR 24/96 aint THAT expensive...

If anyone hasn't checked the prices on these things lately, you might be surprized.
 
How expensive the gear is is irrelevent. What's relevent, is that no matter what your budget is, you need a whole bunch of stuff that the average beginner hasn't thought of. Every one of the items I listed has cheap versions, and more expensive ones, which are usually better. What was originally described is a Corvette with a Yugo engine, no seats, no wheels, and no windshield wipers. It doesn't matter whether you can afford a Hyundai or a Viper, you still need all the parts.-Richie
 
Well, that is true.

Although I thinkyour list is a bit over the top. :)

Here is what I would get if I started from scratch today, even if I had unlimited budget.

An Yamaha AW4416. (They are like $1500 second hand today!)
A nice condenser.
An SM57.
A mic stand.
A pop-shield.
Tannoy Reveal Actives.

All in all this is some $2500, which is a lot of money to start out with. But with the above things you have bought nothing that needs replacing any time soon, and you have everything you really *need*.

So, All Dog Band? Where are you?
 
I think he's trapped in the clutches of the local GC, listening to sales people...

Don't do it, DogBand! Put the Behringer mic down very carefully, back away, and nobody will get hurt...:cool:
 
He did say he was a "lost soul."

Who knows where he could be by now.

I hope he finds himself.
 
Yo regebro!-That'd make you a man with no headphones and no cables, no mic stands. I'm sure your technique will be very interesting.
Ootlaws- A GOBO is short for go-between. It's a movable acoustic baffling panel, basically a rock wool partition on wheels. A very useful item.-Richie
 
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