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shookiejones

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I am starting a new R&B jam band recording project.

We’re all recording in the same room and would like to retain that live spontaneous feel.

I would like some suggestions so I can just hit record and go and have a nice product at the end of the night.

Here is a jam with initial board
ecording levels from last night.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/7/trejprojectmusic.htm

Thanks for your time and opinions.

FYI:

This is not a headphone setup - I have a live PA set up to hear the vocals in the room.

Recording:

Bass: DI from Ampeg BA115 > Mackie > Layla
Guitar: Peavey Classic 30 > SM57 > Mackie > Layla
Drums: 2 SM57s - EV ND 257A – AKG D112 > Mackie > Layla
Vocals: SM57 > Mackie (insert) Alesis NanoCompressor > Layla
 
Here are some links on mic placement that will help you out:

http://www.sfu.ca/sca/Manuals/ZAAPf/m/mic_place.html

http://www.lcc.gatech.edu/gallery/radio-idt/digaudio/placement.html

http://www.sound-expressions.com/articles/page2.htm

http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/pages/placement.htm


As far as your sound, everything was stepping on everything else. The vocals were fine, but the bass and guitars were a bit boomy, and the cymbols were harsh. I think better mic placement and taking care at getting your levels before you hit record and go will help you out immensely.
 
I think it sounds pretty good. I would add some high end to the guitar it's dangerously close to that talking in a jar sound. The bass and kick are on top of each other at times (not that bad on my system). I would try to clear a little space in the bass tone for the low end on the kick drum. cymbols are a bit to airy maybe kill some high highs and see what happens.

Over all I really like it. Guitar was the main thing that struck me as off. The vocals sound very good. Singer has a nice rasp.

F.S.
 
Eq...

Thanks!

It sounds as if I am (hopefully) just having some EQ issues that can be corrected on the individual channels from the board.

I suppose I can do it after the fact, but it would defeat the purpose of the hit record and go thing.

Do most of you guys get a "good" flat signal going in and then tweak later, or is better to get a "optimal" sound eq wise going in? It would seem that it would easier to EQ after the fact (again not good for what I am looking for)
after you hear how everything is sitting in the mix.
 
shookiejones said:
Thanks!

Do most of you guys get a "good" flat signal going in and then tweak later, or is better to get a "optimal" sound eq wise going in? It would seem that it would easier to EQ after the fact (again not good for what I am looking for)
after you hear how everything is sitting in the mix.
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I a good flat signal is great to shoot for. You want to do as much as you can with mic placement and selection of mic's along with the rest of your signal chain. However, on guitar you are going to have to adjust the amp to get the sound you want. You will have a very hard time adding high end that is not there. You end up adding alot of hiss and other noise.

What mic are you using on the guitar?

As far as drums go. I try to do as much as possible with tuning of the drums, mic selection and placement but, When it comes to the kick and the snare anything goes as far as eq is concerned.

Just my opinion.

F.S.
 
Freudian Slip said:
What mic are you using on the guitar?

As far as drums go. I try to do as much as possible with tuning of the drums, mic selection and placement but, When it comes to the kick and the snare anything goes as far as eq is concerned.

F.S.
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I am using an SM57 up on the grill about 2 inches from the edge of the speaker.
I went back and looked at my playback settings and I do have the guitar down in the mix a bit.
I think I may be getting that muddy boxiness because it's just being picked up by the drum overhead. I may need to find a different location to set up the amp it's on an angle and the sound trejectory is in the direction of the overhead.
This added with the fact that the part is being played on the bottom strings doesn't help I am sure.

That is exactly what I do with the kit. I leave the channel eqs at 12 o'clock and tweak only the bass drum and snare a bit.

Thanks again for lending your time to listen.
 
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