High-end Recording software/hardware?

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high end recording soft/hardware?

  • ProTools

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • Soundscape

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Digital Perfomer

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Radar

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • other - please specify

    Votes: 12 57.1%
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I like the Nuendo System because of it's:
1.) Post Production capabilities.
2.) Ability to import and sync to video
3.) Surround Sound Monitoring and encoding
4.) Ease of editing
5.) Surround Sound Plug-ins (Available at an additional cost)
6.) Optical interface with the RME 96/52
7.) Low latencey (mine runs at 1.5ms)
8.) AD/DA converters (Second only to Appogee)
9.) Stability
10.) Automation of parameters

What I don't like about it:
1.) There's no Pro level controller for it like there is for PT
2.) It's non-destructive editing system is not easy to purge
3.) I wish it had better name recognition.

Other DAW's I have used for comparison:
SAW
CakeWalk
Sonar
Cool Edit
 
The problem with this topic is you are kind of comparing apples and oranges. Some of the advantages mentioned were software features and others are hardware advantages.

Also, there is NO one tool that is best for every application. Some times a computer based tool makes sense some times a dedicated recorder makes sense. Many of us use both.

When looking at a tool such the Radar it is important to consider the design goals behind such a product. It is and never will be a tool that slices and dices but it is by far the best sounding tool for the job it was designed to do.

As TexRoadkill has stated, the Radar is an amazing sounding machine. iZ has put tremendous effort in to the design of the A/D converters. He is also correct that in order to get a similar sound you will spend a lot more for external converters ($20,000) then the price of the entire Radar.

But the value of the Radar is not just in its sound. It is also the most reliable system I have every used. I do a lot of live recording and the thought of taking lugging my daw around scares the heck out of me. :)

The Radar was designed be as reliable as a Studer 2 inch machine and when the first Radar was introduced 10 years ago no one would even consider an hdr if it wasn't. For me reliability is almost more important than the sound quality. It doesn't matter how great it sounds if it isn't available when I need it.

One of the less talked about capabilities of the Radar that struck me the first time was how easy it was to use. Technology is a wonderful thing, EXCEPT when it gets in the way of the ultimate goal. Computers, monitors, windows, plug-ins and the mouse can often be more of a burden than a helpful tool. Especially in a complicated, fast paced tracking session. The Session Controller is a breeze to use and it is so fast and intuitive that rarely does a musician have to wait for me. :)

What stuck me most about Radar is it is an audio system that just happens to have a computer in it. My daw is definitely a computer that happens to also do audio. There is a big difference in my opinion.

Spongebob: That just seems like alot of buck, with a little bang to me.
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Spongebob, comparing your friends logic 5 system to TexRoadkill's Radar is like comparing a Mackie 8 buss to your Trident. :)

Is the Radar right for everyone. No. But, the Radar is the one of best purchases I ever made and no other piece of gear I have used or purchased diminishes that decision. In my opinion it stands on it's own merit which exactly the way it should be.

Lee
 
20db.com said:
The problem with this topic is you are kind of comparing apples and oranges. Some of the advantages mentioned were software features and others are hardware advantages.


As TexRoadkill has stated, the Radar is an amazing sounding machine. iZ has put tremendous effort in to the design of the A/D converters. He is also correct that in order to get a similar sound you will spend a lot more for external converters ($20,000) then the price of the entire Radar.


Spongebob, comparing your friends logic 5 system to TexRoadkill's Radar is like comparing a Mackie 8 buss to your Trident. :)

Lee
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While I have no doubt that the Radar is a very nice system to have, my main point in using the logic comparrison is to point out that there are some definite software advantages found in many other programs, that are far more affordable. Being limited to 24 tracks in this age just seems silly. And yes, I get alot of projects where being limited to 24 would mean bouncing, and more time for my clients. For us, Nuendo system does slice and dice.

As for converters, you may be right. Apogee makes nice stuff.
I own some. Although, I must remain somewhat skepticle on that issue aswell, due to the fact that I have tested some 'high end" A/D systems that I fail to see(hear) a 20K difference. This was my main reason for avoiding Pro Tools. I'm not saying some $400 consummer box is going to run neck & neck with the apogee's I test drove, but like stated earlier, the lines are now getting a little more blurrier between pro-sumer & pro. That's the nature of the beast. It all comes down to preference, price & performance.
Good thread!

Sponge Bob
 
sponge bob said:
As for converters, you may be right. Apogee makes nice stuff.
I own some. Although, I must remain somewhat skepticle on that issue aswell, due to the fact that I have tested some 'high end" A/D systems that I fail to see(hear) a 20K difference. This was my main reason for avoiding Pro Tools.
Sponge Bob
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Hey Sponge,
Which PT system & converters did you not find all that impressive?
I have heard the old 888 converters were very good, not stellar, but that the new P.T. HD system is alot better than the old 888 converter system. Just currios. Although I also think that PT is alot of $ for what ya get, I do however love the idea of their contol mixers... drool........... Being poor sucks.

KirK
 
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