High-end Recording software/hardware?

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high end recording soft/hardware?

  • ProTools

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • Soundscape

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Digital Perfomer

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Radar

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • other - please specify

    Votes: 12 57.1%
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Speeddemon

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Lemme hear your preference. I've worked with Pro Tools and Soundscape on 3 occasions... I liked Soundscape a tad better, nicer GUI to my eyes... But from what I hear, Radar® is THA SHIT!

Does its hardware has better converters or will ProTools or something with a fine set of Apogee AD/DA sound awesome as well (given your mics, micing skills and room are o.k. )?

CHeerz
 
For audio recording with basic editing abilities it's hard to beat the Radar. I've had mine for a few weeks and so far so good. Not a single glitch, hiccup or crash. I almost forgot what it was like to record music without jumping into "computer guru" mode every hour.
 
Steinberg's Nuendo coupled with Windows XP Pro, is extremely stable, very usable, and sounds great!

I was recording some stuff this weekend, and for 3 1/2 solid hours of recording, editing, and mixing, I didn't have one crash, drop-out or glitch.

I run it on a dedicated DAW computer, with a dedicated HD for audio, and one gig of ram.

I also use Steinberg's hardware - their AD/DA converters and their sound cards - so, to be fair, that could have a lot to do with the stability of the system as well.
 
i'd also have to say Nuendo.. i run nuendo and sx.. soon nuendo 2..
i've used everything out there but the soundscape32... i'll stick to a powerful computer with nuendo with a powercore or a uad-1
 
My vote goest for Digital Performer. Part of this is familiarity and I am decidedly not alone on this account. But the program is stable though I experience occasional computer freezes I have never had a serious crash where I actually lost information. The MOTU hardware is good and has gotten better ( I am waiting for either the 24 i/o/ or the HD 192 - have not yet decided best move for me).

Most of all, the functions are great, the program does anything I want with relative ease ad the sound quality is quite god.


As far as better sound, unless I am going high reolution digital or analogue, I think DP sounds just fine. Interestingly thous, I have cconsidered a dedicated hard disc recorder but from what I understand, the only one worthwhile is the Radar. For now, since I do not do commercial sessions for clients only for my own compositions, I do not really need such a device.

So, my vote goes to Digital Performer becuase it is truly a deserving program and works very, very nicely for me.
 
My vote goes to Pro Tools. I am in the process of setting up an HD 3 system, and can't wait. Although I can see it being a bit on the expensive side, there is nothing that beats its compadibility.
 
musikman316 said:
My vote goes to Pro Tools. I am in the process of setting up an HD 3 system, and can't wait. Although I can see it being a bit on the expensive side, there is nothing that beats its compadibility.
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Compatability with what?
 
Compatability with every other major studio I know...
 
Michael Jones said:
Steinberg's Nuendo coupled with Windows XP Pro, is extremely stable, very usable, and sounds great!

I was recording some stuff this weekend, and for 3 1/2 solid hours of recording, editing, and mixing, I didn't have one crash, drop-out or glitch.

I run it on a dedicated DAW computer, with a dedicated HD for audio, and one gig of ram.

I also use Steinberg's hardware - their AD/DA converters and their sound cards - so, to be fair, that could have a lot to do with the stability of the system as well.
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I agree, I am in the midst of setting up my new studio system, and after comparing "pro tools" to my Nuendo, SX & a slew of Aark24's I see no real operational or funtional avantage of PT anymore. Our main machine is a monster pc dedicated to nothing but audio, and it runs xp - glitch free after config was complete. I also didn't like the hefty price tag PT carries, and that helped in the decision process.

Can't coment on Radar, but heard its sweet. Guess other than client candy, I think the imaginary line of 'high end' is getting blurred even further - although I consider Nuendo very professional. Scary thing is sx isn't really far behind.

Sponge Bob
 
logic audio platinum 5

if i didn't use this, i'd use cubase sx, if i could afford a full protools system, id get protools.
 
After checking the Mercenary site, I thought Radar was cheaper than ProTools... boy was I wrong. I checked in my local store for some prices... if you're looking at a 24 track 192kHz system with all hardware, you'll have to spend up to $65.000!

I believe a full blown ProTools TDM rig with 3 mixfarm cards and some hardware should be around $20.000...
Hell, I might just go with a Soundcraft Ghost, and an Alesis HD24. 24 tracks and a pretty cool semi-pro rig.... :)
 
I have to go with Pro Tools also. I've been with it since Pro Tools III and I know it pretty well, key commands and such. I've used Sonic Solutions, Soundscape, and Digital Performer. I've heard many great reviews for Performer though.
Most studios I've been to do use Pro Tools though. So it's good to know your way around it.
 
I wish PT didnt have such limited plugs, makes it less palatable. If digidesign would drop their proprietary crap, allow focusrite and bombfactory to write for dx and vst, allow PT to use VST for UA DSP card and DX for drumagog ( sound replacer is a JOKE ), then we could talk compatiability
 
Speeddemon said:
After checking the Mercenary site, I thought Radar was cheaper than ProTools... boy was I wrong. I checked in my local store for some prices... if you're looking at a 24 track 192kHz system with all hardware, you'll have to spend up to $65.000!

I believe a full blown ProTools TDM rig with 3 mixfarm cards and some hardware should be around $20.000...
Hell, I might just go with a Soundcraft Ghost, and an Alesis HD24. 24 tracks and a pretty cool semi-pro rig.... :)
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You are comparing the absolute top of the line Radar with a middle of the road PT rig. Who does 24ch of 192khz? A typical Radar rig is about $8-15K. I got my Nyquist used for $6k. That's 24ch of 24/48khz or 12ch of 24/96khz.
 
TexRoadkill said:
A typical Radar rig is about $8-15K. I got my Nyquist used for $6k. That's 24ch of 24/48khz or 12ch of 24/96khz.
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That just seems like alot of buck, with a little bang to me.
Another friend of mine has the Logic 5 with his logic control and a couple of Aark 24's. Way affordable, very stable, 24/48khz, not limited to 24 tracks, nice system... way under 8-15K. His plugs rock to boot. Hey, if you got the $ and it floats your boat, cool. My main reason for avoiding PT was the dollar to performance ratio. My clients don't care. They are more impressed with my old Trident console than anything else. I can honestly say that "compatability" has not been an issue yet, and I'm guessing in the future, it will become even less of an issue as HD recording continues to develop. My .02 worth...

Sponge Bob
 
Pro Tools


Why? Cause i'm Biased!!!!!! :D (I own it.....Well the LE version)


Works great... easy to use and almost 2 years going strong on the PC with no Crashes whatsoever.

I can only imagine what the "Big" Mac based system would be like... mmmmmmm!

My Waves Gold Bundle is a nice helper too.

Love it!



Joe
 
sponge bob said:
That just seems like alot of buck, with a little bang to me.
Another friend of mine has the Logic 5 with his logic control and a couple of Aark 24's. Way affordable, very stable, 24/48khz, not limited to 24 tracks, nice system... way under 8-15K.
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The real value is when you look at the hardware. The Radar Nyquist DAC's compare well to many of the highend stand alone convertors that cost over $1K per channel. 24channels of 96khz i/o convertors is very expensive and that what's make the Radar a real value. Even at a retail price of $8K you are only paying $300 per i/o and you get a recorder for free. Some PT studios use a Radar just as for the DAC's and they pipe it directly into PT for editing and mixing.

I'll post some stuff in a few weeks hopefully. You really have to hear a Radar to appreciate it. Everthing is fat, clear and sounds the way it is supposed to. Not to mention you can easily put the whole thing in a rack and use it for mobile gigs. I'm really not into buying overhyped products but the Radar is one of those pieces of gear that gives you a woody every time you use it.
 
I don't know if this qualifies as High End.....

I'm a big n-Track user. I use it for all my clients that need production done that requires more than 24 tracks.

The latest version is the most stable and feature full yet.

Johnny
 
The new converters in the HD system are a definite improvement over the 888/24's.

I like Pro Tools TDM for a few reasons:

•cross-studio compatability (it's still the most common)
•complete automation of all parameters
•complete recall
•far more DSP for plug-ins than with any native system
•low latency
•still unmatched for editing features
•I'm good at it.

Yeah, I'd love to see more compatability with VST and MOTU formats, and it sucks to have to pay $500 for a translator to bring in OMF files from Nuendo. And, yeah, it's pricey. So I'm by no means saying it's above criticism. But it's sounding better with every revision, and it's still the common currency in Pop music projects.
 
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