Hey TexRoadKill, could You ask Dobro A Question For Me?

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lol...feeling a little goofy today. I actually have a question or 3 that would most likely be easily answered by doing quick searches in the mixing and mastering forum, but that wouldn't really give us CEP users a chance to see how dumb we all are, so here goes:

Is there a way IN COOLEDIT to "correct" phase problems that exist in a final stereo mix? Like if the guitars are out of phase for only a portion of the tune? (yes, this CAN happen, lol...trust me; *sigh*). Like (by way of purely hypothetical example) if the guy who recorded the tracks originally doesn't even have the same guitar that he recorded them with, and if he was also really REALLY lazy and had no intention whatsoever of re-recording a track on a mix that's a year old? Not that this would ever come up in real life, but seriously, if anybody has any tips, I'd appreciate it.

ALSO, can somebody who actually uses sweeping filters for some purpose other than to see what THAT button does explain the practical application(s) to me? I use high pass (low cut) filters a lot to isolate dangerous frequencies that I can't hear, lol...but I feel like I'm missing out on a possibly very useful tool here.

Third - "Jitter"...what the hell is this? The only reason I care is b/c I was listening to just the low end of one of my mixes recently, and the freaking bass sounded like it was skipping or something? The bass track does NOT sound like that, but even though it's really low in the mix, it's annoying as hell to me to know that it's there. It sounds like something you'd call "Jitter," lol...but I'm probably waaaay off base here. Tex? Groucho? "Other Chris"?? (Blue Bear????...does he still drop by?).

I'm a tool for posting these actual sound questions in the CEP forum, but dammit, (*sniff*), you people have become like family to me!!

Okay, that last part was a total lie, but some of you guys are smart.

To Summarize:
1. Fixing Polarity (phase) problems IN a mix?

2. Sweeping Filters - any info on "harmonics" would be cool here.

3. Jitter? - (or, in the alternative, "what the fuck is up with the low end on this mix skipping like an epileptic crackhead?).


Here's the part where I "give back".

I FOUND SOMETHING (that everybody else probably already knows about), but I think it's cool, so if you haven't ever tried the "FREQUENCY BAND SPLITTER," do it. It's so cool, I'm posting a pic of what it does.

Take a mix and put it (and only it) in a multitrack session. Go to "EFFECTS" (I'd never even noticed the "Effects" tab in multitrack before, lol).

Hit "frequency band splitter" and tell CEP how you'd like to break up your mix, (up to 8 bands, I think)...AND IT MAKES NEW FREAKING .wav FILES CONTAINING ONLY THE FREQUENCIES YOU SPECIFY... (see pic below, lol).

Why is this cool to me? Probably b/c I'm a total dork... but one use that pops out is multi-band compression for mastering... if you're like most people, you hate CEP's confusing double headed compressor, but you also hate spending over a grand to get the WAVES plugins, and you also abhor software piracy/theft, so you're stuck...NOT ANY LONGER YOU'RE NOT. :D You can add different amounts of compression with different attacks and releases and stuff to each sonic "part" of the mix, and/or add reverb to ONLY the high end of the drum kit instead of having to EQ a reverb or (worse) using some global reverb for the whole mix that probably muddies it up in the low end.

(it's also helpful to HEAR what frequencies sound like all by their lonesome...it helps to develop your ears, and to understand why a normal EQ curve LOOKS the way it does by seeing "sound" it in tangible form) (btw-the low band on 95% of all mixes should look drastically different from this one...it SHOULD be huge and fat...this is an acoustic track with no bass or drums)

My thoughts on a Thursday.
-Chris
 

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No, I can't answer any of your questions. You have to understand two things here. First, although I'm the moderator of this forum, and although I've been using Cool for over three years, I am really, really, really uninformed about it. I'm like the guy who drives the car and thinks he's on top of things when he remembers to keep it in gas and check the air in the tires once a year. As for the engine... engine? Where would one look for an engine if one were in the mood to go looking, I wonder? Don't some people call them motors?

Second thing - that trick with the frequency splitter is magic, but I can't get it to work. When I load a session into MT, the frequency splitter button is greyed out. And mixdowns don't load into multitrack. How do you make it work? I'd like to be able to use this - if Cool gives you 8 frequency bands to work with, that's twice as many as my Ultrafunk multiband compressor.

I've gotten into Cool's compressor recently, BTW. I mostly ignore the lower box and everything becomes much simpler. It seems a bit more aggressive than my Ultrafunk plugin, but it's workable with.
 
Oh - I just learned how to insert a mixdown into multitrack. Still, the buttons are greyed out. Poo.

And when you say 'sweeping filters', do you mean sweeping for problem frequencies? I know how to do that one.

And jitter - I think it's some kinda lowgrade distortion/muddying of the sound due to timing issues with the computer. If you get everything in your system slaved to the same clock, then jitter disappears, if I'm not mistaken. It costs a lot of money to do that, as I recall. And I think there's an engine or a motor involved too, but I'm not sure...
 
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